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windycrawford 
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 Topic: Your opinion on Pawn Hearts
Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:29 |
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I've noticed, there are a lot of controversial points about this album. While some see it as the artistic peak of VDGG, others think of it as excessive and unlistenable. Who do you think?
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ole-the-first
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:32 |
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Best VDGG album (alongside with Godbluff & Still Life), one of the finest creations of prog-rock
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This night wounds time.
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:35 |
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One of my all-time favs. Best Vdgg album for me.
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"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."
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Raff
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:37 |
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I would go for a fourth option: not perfect, but definitely worthy to be mentioned among the highlights of progressive rock. "Lemmings" is one of the strongest opening tracks in prog, and the slower, moodier pace of "Man-Erg" provides a nice contrast. On the other hand, "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" starts out great, but the chaotic middle section loses the plot somewhat, and is not one of the band's finest moments (in my opinion, of course).
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Barbu
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 18:18 |
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Mighty.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 18:52 |
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One of the best Prog rock has to offer.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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tboyd1802
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:36 |
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While I personally prefer Still Life, this is a great album - one of the finest ever created by a prog band - and absolutely essential to any prog collection.
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Horizons
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:48 |
The epitome of prog rock.
Always an enjoyable listen.
Somehow always makes me grin listening to it. Something that a lot of classic albums stopped doing a while ago.
Props to the boys.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Horizons
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:50 |
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How does everyone think Lighthouse Keepers holds when compared to other classic-era epics?
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:55 |
Theeeee Gem 
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:20 |
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Really good album, but really overrated.
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:37 |
I would offer my negative opinion, but Barbu would get mad at me. 
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Dellinger
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:57 |
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When it is good, it is really wonderful, but it's got some moments I don't really care much about, so I don't really think any of this options sound right for me. Man-Erg is a really wonderful songs, and half of Lighthouse Keepers too... but the other half is just too noisy, and then the new melodies just aren't as great as the first ones. Lemmings I don't really care about.
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dr wu23
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 22:30 |
My mother always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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sublime220
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Posted: May 05 2015 at 22:38 |
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Imma go with the second option. The best for me is definetly H to He and it gets a little boring towards the middle of APOLK. But a really great listen in general.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Altairius
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Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:22 |
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One of the best albums, but not VdGG's best. That would be Godbluff.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:41 |
Option #1. Probably in my top 10. Brimming with creativity.
Graphomaniac ... I gotta laugh. Who does that?
 Horizons wrote:
How does everyone think Lighthouse Keepers holds when compared to other classic-era epics? |
Thoroughly engaging after multiple listens.
dr wu23 wrote:
My mother always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
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Words of the wise.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 06 2015 at 00:46
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Kirillov
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Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:45 |
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Option 2. I prefer Godbluff, Still Life & World Record.
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ten years after
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Posted: May 06 2015 at 02:16 |
One of the finest creations of prog rock, but not the best VDGG album (IMO that is Least We Can Do is Wave) Therefore no vote, as none of the options apply.
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Posted: May 06 2015 at 03:08 |
Option #2 fits this album very well. Man-erg is one of my favourite VdGG songs, Lemmings is quite good (I prefer the excellent Metropolis Studios version), A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers just average and their first proof that long epics are not their strongest side.
Still Life > Godbluff > H to He > A Grounding in Numbers > Pawn Hearts
Edited by someone_else - May 06 2015 at 03:09
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