Padraic wrote: When referring to being objective in terms of independence or impartiality, one will almost always use objectivity as the noun, with subjectivity as its antonym. Objectiveness is a far less frequently used synonym, and one which not every dictionary recognizes. But I suppose MW supports you. Please enlighten me on how you think this site should be run.

 

I am not a native English speaker and this very spelling checker did not report Objectiveness as being wrong, but I will keep that in mind for the future.

As for the site, at the very least, there should be some way to make an appeal in cases like this when enough users think the respective team decision was wrong.

If this site cares for its users in any way, then the users should at least be heard and not cut off completely and rejected because they're not part of any team, and only the teams know what's right.

That does not mean that the users should be allowed to decide because that would mean chaos, but at least they should be able to vote and their votes should weigh something, similar to the way ratings are calculated.


Edited by amatala - September 08 2015 at 10:15

Just to add my two penn'orth as a former New Bands Admin.
I'm listening to the first album now and from what I've heard so far I would have no objections to it being included in Symphonic Prog, however the decision belongs to Ivan and his team and not me. They have a vast amount of experience of their genre and it's a subjective thing so if they feel it doesn't belong, then chucking your toys out of the pram and resorting to abuse isn't going to help.

Not as silly as others before me, e.g. "it's our call, if you don't like it, buy your site and do what you want, I don't have to answer you"

These our toys and you don't get to play with them, go buy your own!


http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/objectiveness


Edited by amatala - September 08 2015 at 09:45

It doesn't really matter, the result is the same. The teams decide, so it's their site to do as they please with the info on it.


Edited by amatala - September 08 2015 at 06:12

I think that the important thing to understand here is that PA is not a site that strives for accuracy or objectiveness, but it's a site on which the owners include whatever they feel it's right in order to create their own subjective definition of Progressive Rock. This has been made very clear on repeated occasions.

Once you understand that, this debate is over, the owners have spoken and users are free to move along and start using whatever site which they consider to be more credible and accurate (or build they own sites where they can be kings and rule their own worlds as they deem fit).


Edited by amatala - September 08 2015 at 04:30

Who needs barrack room "lawyers" when we have a real one.  

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Komandant Shamal wrote: Atavachron wrote: ^ There's no doubt it's symphonic rock, I can tell that just from the small samples.  Whether it's prog is for the team to decide. Mister, i unterstand that for some crazy reason you have to play the lawyer of symph team in the case of "The Black Codex" ridiculous rejection, but I dont buy the cheap tricks. Symph rock and Symph prog is the same thing - always have been and always will be... So go try to sell your tricks to the kids in a kindergarten. Symphonic Rock is the same as Symphonic Prog? I'm getting tired of this crap, we don't have  to answer you or your alter ego Svetonio.

i'm NOT Svetonio. And I told you that no one time.

Edited by Komandant Shamal - September 08 2015 at 01:58

Atavachron wrote: Oooh, a tough guy.   Bring it, Shirley.   I have no knowledge as to whether they've been rejected or not, but if you wanna fight, we can do that too.

"I don't need to fight

To prove I'm right..."

 

 

...At least in this case!

Oooh, a tough guy.   Bring it, Shirley.   I have no knowledge as to whether they've been rejected or not, but if you wanna fight, we can do that too.