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Mascodagama
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 03:49 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
French Police Appeasement - Muslims can kill but you're not allowed to protest until next Thursday! I thought child grooming protecting Rotherham Police were bad!!! | You know what, a large number of the French police were on the streets of Paris on Friday night risking their lives to try and save people. You might want to think about that before taking cheap shots at them from the safety of your armchair. And, while I'm here, I want to say that the evident glee with which you are using this tragedy to make political capital with the bodies barely cold yet turns my stomach.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 03:07 |
Ok, can you point out the hate speech in his post??
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Kati
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 02:38 |
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^^^ Can you give examples of hate speech in the thread??? |
Blacksword, it's not the comments on the thread, it's the post itself, with that I think I gave enough reasons as to why it does not belong on P.A.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 02:34 |
^^^ Can you give examples of hate speech in the thread???
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Kati
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 02:08 |
This forum topic should be closed, Admins please? This discussion won't benefit anyone on here.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 01:32 |
Kati wrote:
Matthew _Gill wrote:
There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.
R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist attack on Western society.
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This is frickin' hate speech!!! I will have nothing to do with this, except speak my peace. Most of Isis f***in' murderers, especially the leaders, come from Europe not Middle-East. This is ridiculous and ignorant, shame on all who think this is right! Ok now I am finished. | Why is it hate speech?
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 15 2015 at 01:31 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
Bloody hell, 233,000 signatures, it seems to be getting signed 10 times per second. Pretty significant occurrence imo.
| It's not significant at all. If you surveyed everyone in the UK and asked them do they want to bring back hanging, millions would say 'Yes' but no government would ever re-instate it. It's not about what the people want. it's about what the establishment feels it needs to do, and the policy of "encouraged" multiculturalism is a cross party initiative. Those who oppose it are on the lunatic fringe of the parties.
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Kati
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 18:42 |
Edited by Kati - November 15 2015 at 05:18
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Kati
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 18:39 |
We have many members on here from the middle east, also many who are Western European etc. of Muslim Religion, how would you feel if you were in their shoes right now with a post like this?
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Kati
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 18:35 |
This does not belong here on P.A. !!! f.it!
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Kati
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 18:34 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.
R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist attack on Western society.
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This is frickin' hate speech!!! I will have nothing to do with this, except speak my peace. Most of Isis f***in' murderers, especially the leaders, come from Europe not Middle-East. This is ridiculous and ignorant, shame on all who think this is right! Ok now I am finished.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:39 |
Obviously an exaggeration to bring light to the point, but as a fan of history (and I've seen many agree/echo similar sentiments) there is an oddly 1920/s30s feel not just in Europe but all over the world, certainly here in the US.
Hope we choose to act together and not resort to isolationism and forever cyclical warfare (never the intent of course)
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The T
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:33 |
^Well said Brian. The "let's get all Muslims out" thing is not a consequence. The real idea is "NOW this gives me justification to say what I always wanted which is let's get the Muslims out".
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A Person
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:08 |
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Follix
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:01 |
From a Canadian perspective, our government want bring 25,000 refugees per year... They will pay food, loan a shelter, give them money etc...
Over terrorism issues, this will cost us a ton of money, most don't speak our languages, their conception of the world is diametrically different (religion doesn't really exist where I live... And I like it that way!) and common feeling is that it's gonna end up in ghettoisation.
I'd like to help, but not necessarily welcome them, terrorism is just one aspect... It's highly unfair for poor people who pay taxes since they are born and homeless people who will spent night outside at -35 Celsius during the winter.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 16:50 |
While I certainly understand the want and need for stricter controls and monitoring of borders/entry...why stop immigration itself? Why "close" the borders? Seems perhaps an A: over reaction based off knee jerk or B: a belief that maybe was already wanted and now given "justification"?
We in the Western World are proud of our civilization, our way of life, so it's when times are toughest we need to uphold them. So we can't proceed with anger, and we can't just give up what it is that makes the "civilization" that so many are saying is now being warred with.
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 16:32 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation. |
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 15:30 |
Bloody hell, 233,000 signatures, it seems to be getting signed 10 times per second. Pretty significant occurrence imo.
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 14:50 |
TBH Islam is struggling to integrate with European cultures in general, to stop just Islamic immigration is very controversial. The UK has seen many migrants recently from the Eastern Bloc but they certainly aren't dominating the headlines for terrorism, female genital mutilation or child grooming offences. Some Brits fear the Polish may take our jobs but they certainly don't fear them.
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Vompatti
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Posted: November 14 2015 at 14:25 |
Closing borders would be bad for the business.
If we ate each other alive we'd need less genetically modifier foods.
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