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Tom Ozric
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^ That's great . It is very 'dense' music to absorb. Mind-boggling - and the drummer, Weasel, is just amazing.
If you wish to try something *really* relentless - try Meshuggah - I Am Collosus. This one is Earth-Shatteringly heavy and unrelenting. This makes Magma, Universe Zero and Shub Niggurath seem like a walk in the park. Add to that the Texan band Yeti. 'Heavy' is a refreshing change from time to time. And I never forget about the extreme other end of the spectrum, with Nick Beggs and Limahl. Again, I'm not a fan of 80's New-Wave, but if I like what I hear........... Edited by Tom Ozric - December 15 2015 at 05:21 |
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Meltdowner
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^ Thankfully it's less than 30 minutes long
I'll need to listen to something calmer now Univers Zero is a band I should explore more.
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Tom Ozric
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^ In an interview, even Colin, himself, said that he had 2 more tracks for the album which were under-rehearsed and missed the final cut, and that in retrospect, it worked out for the better, because the under-30 minute playing time for this type of music, is more than enough for the listener to absorb without being overwhelmed. So there you go......
Amusing that many of these extreme metal musicians are actually rather 'geeky' and straight. Not all, but some |
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Meltdowner
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^ Good call It's the same thing for Punk Hardcore albums, less than 30 minutes is a good lenght.
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Tom Ozric
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^ Right on
Attention spans go only so far with most folks.......... The Gorguts album I've acquired recently is a dbl at around 63 mins. I have spun it, about 8 times now (got it on Friday) - and by the 3rd side, it is a blur. I do like it a lot, the growl, yes, the growl.........I can't, for the life of me, truly, honestly say I dig this style of 'singing', but it does fit, and it does take effort and training, especially when playing an instrument too. But, as you know with Prog, vocalists are hit and miss anyway, I love Grobschnitt, but here even Wildschwein (Stefan Danielak) is just as difficult to take as these Growling vocalists. Anyway, the music comes first and foremost, so, generally, looks like I go for select Extreme bands of this nature. Change is good !! Edited by Tom Ozric - December 15 2015 at 06:44 |
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Catcher10
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I have spent many years listening to different music, none of it prog. R&B, Jazz, Soul, Funk, Classic Rock and even some Disco. Many of those genres are now out of my comfort zone as I have spent the last 20yrs deep into prog and all it's sub-genres.
On occasion I will spin some of these other genres and I find myself smiling, since I grew up listening to a lot of it. Right now I don't feel the need to dig into other music....It's weird but I feel I have plenty to listen to.
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Tom Ozric
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^ I can agree with that - there's so many LP's in my collection I haven't spun in years, and do I miss not hearing them - not really. One day I will have to do a 'stock-take' count and down-size, but it's just comforting knowing that they are there, waiting to be spun........
I don't mind taking a trip away from the 'usual' Prog, it breaks things up a little, and so far, Extreme is, whilst I can hear the technicality and intelligence involved, is the furthest I've gone from my 'general world' of listening. |
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Meltdowner
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I bought this Portuguese 70's Prog album at a reasonable price (the average price is around 50€), since the cover is not in great condition, but the disc is better than the cover. A nice mixture of Symphonic, Fusion, Space and Indo-Prog, I just wish it would be fully instrumental... awful vocals and lyrics Much better than their previous album IMO, though. Never heard anything from them before, but I found this copy really cheap. This album is quite Pop though Another of my recent Psych purchases, the only one I have from this label that isn't coloured Since I had to clean the first two LPs and others I didn't listen yet, I also cleaned my albums from Camel, Supertramp and Alan Parsons Project, so I'm revisiting some favourites I know quite well. These albums are great to test the recent upgrades, it was fantastic to listen to Crime Of The Century this time |
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^ Saga is a band that has always been in my wheel house, but never close to the top of my fav bands. I have several of their albums including that one. Wife and I saw Saga in concert in 1984 (I think) in Baton Rouge, La at LSU. I think the headliner was Quiet Riot, might have been The Police, I don't remember.
You need to listen to World's Apart, much proggier if that is what you are looking for, regardless it has some amazing songs. Check out The Chapters Live album....series of songs that make up a story, they released them over a 20yr period as a mixed up puzzle. They have a huge catalog, their most recent 20/20 is pretty good.....Problem is not much of the later material is on vinyl.
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Tom Ozric
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^ I have Saga S/T - it's excellent most of the way through. Almost sports a Neo-Prog sound before 'Neo' existed !!
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Catcher10
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That's a good assessment...They never were full on progressive, they touched it on occasion. But they did have some very intriguing songs with excellent topic content, I always thought Sadler was a very good vocalist too.
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Meltdowner
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Thanks for the recommendations, I'll look into those
Speaking of Neo: Played it through my faulty speakers, their music is not for headphones
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^ Is this the reissue? I only have an original pressing and it needs to be replaced....
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A wonderful band.....
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Meltdowner
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^^ I bought it brand new. It's this one: http://www.discogs.com/Marillion-Fugazi/release/3764921
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Tom Ozric
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The copy of Fugazi I have is, I guess, the original EMI pressing, and it sounds fine, perhaps a little 'thin', but I've enjoyed it since I bought it 25 years ago. Still in beautiful condition. And regarding 'modern' Marillion, I've been drawn to Anoraknophobia since the vinyl issue was released, could be my fave h era album, along with Brave, and to a lesser extent, This Strange Engine. I don't get all the negativity surrounding Neo-Prog....
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I still need to get Anorak on vinyl....I agree the slam of neo on this site is rather silly when you think about it. I think it has to do with the word "neo" and it's definition, dark emotional lyrics and more melodic playing, less traditional prog rock jamming. What I don't like is the references to Genesis, Camel and Floyd, I think that is where people get pissed at neo. In general to me the neo bands are much more musical, better vocals and lyrics, subject matter maybe even more technical than most other prog-sub genres, maybe except for symphonic. I enjoy me some neo
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Tom Ozric
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^ Halleluah ! Man, I'll eat myself if the 'Neo' bands are 'clones' of Genesis (esp.) - sure, they've been inspired by the likes of them, Yes, Floyd etc. but in NO WAY, do they 'sound' like them. Inspiration is a wonderful, and obviously, confusing thing. I guess that most modern things need to be compared to what's come before and that's the way they do it. For the folks who snub 'Neo' - it's their loss. I have never, nor will I ever, have any qualms about this 'Neo' tag. For me, Pendragon, Marillion, I.Q., Twelfth Night, Magenta, Landmark etc. I qualify as top-tier Prog music. Bugger all of the 'Nay-Sayers', if you will. Buggered if I can hear Genesis in LANDMARQ (f**k the automatic upper-case sh*t.........can't get rid of it.............) - To me, 'Neo' is just a lame and tag defining symph-Prog from the 80's onward...........
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You know, i've never really given the early Scorpions stuff a serious listen despite knowing their metal stuff inside out. must put that right sometime.
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