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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 01:34
In my experience the law is usually quite clear but overzealous litigators or govt (depending on who's petitioning) try to derive new meanings by playing with words which is what breaks the system. A law that would be completely unambiguous as if written in binary code would also be cruel and harsh with little room for relief in a case of genuine hardship. But people interpret words in ways that defy common sense to suit their interests and get away with it surprisingly often.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:34
I wonder what Scalia, who supposedly was such a staunch defender of the Constitution, would think of the idiots in the Party that more closely aligns with his way of thinking who want to stop the President from doing what the Constitution empowers him to do. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:39
I could be wrong but didn't one of the justices.. and a conservative one ..call out the Senate today for even considering dodging it's responsibilities.

oh btw...   you know the political year is going to be juicy.. and messy.. when the Pope himself gets involved LOL

Some Mick Points redeemed, for a Pope I really want to believe in, after that disaster of a US trip last fall....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:49
Retired justice Sandra Day O'Connor called the Senate out.  She was a Reagan appointee, but I think that she was fairly moderate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:55
ahh.. thanks Scott. I should have known better than to even assume it might have been a sitting member.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if privately, behind the scenes, pressure isn't being applied to not play politics with this.  They have nearly a whole year, and a full judicial term to go through. 

It would obviously be a different case or more grey as to wait if this happened in the summer or especially the fall.

That said.. who do congress really answer to.. their voters and from the polls I've seen. Which way you feel is highly.. HIGHLY defined by ideology.  Interestingly.. moderates are split on the President selecting the new Justice.  I suppose the GOP could.. and likely would risk a move. The same voters that put them in office are likely the same ones that could care less about obstruction and not acting.. even as they bitch about how they government is broken.  Ignorant Idiots..
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Personally, I think that the Senate and the President need to do their job and appoint a new Supreme Court justice.  And given that the Senate is Republican and the President is Democrat, they need to do what they need to do, and that means compromise and find a moderate that is acceptable to both sides....which quite frankly should be the case on all Supreme Court judges since it is not their job to create law....it is their job to interpret the law.  Appointing liberal leaning or conservative leaning judges defeats that check and balance within our system since they are going to rule based on their political ideology...no matter what they might say. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:29
regardless of what anyone thinks of him. The President isn't an idiot..no way in HELL he gives the Senate an easy out and puts out some granola munching extremist from the left that he knows.. as all of do that will NEVER be confirmed..and probably never even given a hearing.


Hell he's a lot smarter than most in Washington. He knows that and how to play the political game. Democrats are pros at letting the GOP let themselves look like spoiled kids throwing a temper tantrum when they can't have their way. He'll appoint a moderate yet well veted to lean the way.. WE who put in office ..want him to lean.
That means not using the court to hold to fight what can not be fought..should not be fought.. this country is changing.. and times change.. the country if it wants to even think of remaining great.. must change as well.

my two cents of course...
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Obama should embarrass the Republicans to death, nominate someone who is making them look awful when they deny to do their constitutional job. I've like the "I don't give a f**k" version of Obama so much more than the first-term version and I think is something he could do and would be of benefit even as a rebound to the party 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2016 at 12:23
It is sad, but in all honesty, the best thing that could happen is that the Republican senators don't do their jobs of confirming a new judge (assuming that Obama puts forth someone who is moderate and palatable to both sides of the aisle) and then come election time, a Democrat is elected president and the Democrats retake the Senate.  i.e. the next judge put forth is pretty much the middle finger to the Republicans.       It probably won't change a damn thing, but something like that needs to happen to fix our political system.  This two party squabbling all the time with no compromising and no doing what is actually best for the people has to end.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2016 at 14:46
Though the idea sounds nice, I would be too terrified of the possibility, even if it was 0.1 % (which is not, it could be much higher) or President Trump or (worse) President Cruz nominating the next Supreme Court Justice. 
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^ But since Hillary will probably be president, it'll be even worse for the GOP if the Senate forces a delay.  Then they get a Clinton appointee and they look bad.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2016 at 15:32
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ But since Hillary will probably be president, it'll be even worse for the GOP if the Senate forces a delay.  Then they get a Clinton appointee and they look bad.



She'd walk the dog against against of those knuckleheads the GOP can't decide between... but question is. 

Does she get past Sanders for the nomination. If not... does an old white male northeaster liberal win a general election?...

good thing the GOP is off its f**king rocker and the Bush name has been tarnished for all eternity and Rubio is a f**king idiot.... or it would be 1988 all over again...


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A double whammy of tragedy from the world of literature today.

Harper Lee and Umberto Eco have passed away, aged 89 and 84 respectively.


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Originally posted by LearsFool LearsFool wrote:

A double whammy of tragedy from the world of literature today.

Harper Lee and Umberto Eco have passed away, aged 89 and 84 respectively.


 
Terrible day for literature. Loved Eco. The Name of the Rose and Foucault's Pendulum are such works of art.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ But since Hillary will probably be president, it'll be even worse for the GOP if the Senate forces a delay.  Then they get a Clinton appointee and they look bad.


She'd walk the dog against against of those knuckleheads the GOP can't decide between... but question is. 

Does she get past Sanders for the nomination. If not... does an old white male northeaster liberal win a general election?...

Yes she does and no he doesn't.

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by LearsFool LearsFool wrote:

A double whammy of tragedy from the world of literature today.

Harper Lee and Umberto Eco have passed away, aged 89 and 84 respectively.


 
Terrible day for literature. Loved Eco. The Name of the Rose and Foucault's Pendulum are such works of art.

I read "To Kill a Mockingbird" and all of Eco's novels except "La Misteriosa Fiamma della Regina Loana" ("The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana"). really a hard blow.

my favorite Eco novel is "Baudolino" because in it he brings to life many creatures that were mentioned in the "Physiologus", a widespread book in the middle ages in which all kinds of fabulous creatures which were at that time believed to exist are described

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2016 at 07:16
waiting for a respectable time.. as well as actually finishing my morning coffee before cracking open the first beer in celebration of the eradication (hopefully forever) of the Bush name from American Politics...

good riddence... and yeah.. go on thinking your brother protected us...  pffff. He and his crew ignored the warnings of 9-11..as well as then launching misguided wars of American Exceptionalism and expansion.. against those that didn't even attack us... god forbid if it had been a democrat sitting in the white house. The GOP'rs in congress would likely STILL be having hearings in congress on it trying to milk it for any political gain.


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Frank Kelly, best known as Father Jack Hackett on the classic sitcom Father Ted, has passed away at the age of 77.

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man oh man. That is sort of heartbreaking..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/28/us/prince-william-county-officer-shooting/index.html

even the more so that it is local here.


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^ Terrible.  Thank goodness the kid got out of there.

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