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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:29
regardless of what anyone thinks of him. The President isn't an idiot..no way in HELL he gives the Senate an easy out and puts out some granola munching extremist from the left that he knows.. as all of do that will NEVER be confirmed..and probably never even given a hearing.


Hell he's a lot smarter than most in Washington. He knows that and how to play the political game. Democrats are pros at letting the GOP let themselves look like spoiled kids throwing a temper tantrum when they can't have their way. He'll appoint a moderate yet well veted to lean the way.. WE who put in office ..want him to lean.
That means not using the court to hold to fight what can not be fought..should not be fought.. this country is changing.. and times change.. the country if it wants to even think of remaining great.. must change as well.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:23
Personally, I think that the Senate and the President need to do their job and appoint a new Supreme Court justice.  And given that the Senate is Republican and the President is Democrat, they need to do what they need to do, and that means compromise and find a moderate that is acceptable to both sides....which quite frankly should be the case on all Supreme Court judges since it is not their job to create law....it is their job to interpret the law.  Appointing liberal leaning or conservative leaning judges defeats that check and balance within our system since they are going to rule based on their political ideology...no matter what they might say. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:55
ahh.. thanks Scott. I should have known better than to even assume it might have been a sitting member.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if privately, behind the scenes, pressure isn't being applied to not play politics with this.  They have nearly a whole year, and a full judicial term to go through. 

It would obviously be a different case or more grey as to wait if this happened in the summer or especially the fall.

That said.. who do congress really answer to.. their voters and from the polls I've seen. Which way you feel is highly.. HIGHLY defined by ideology.  Interestingly.. moderates are split on the President selecting the new Justice.  I suppose the GOP could.. and likely would risk a move. The same voters that put them in office are likely the same ones that could care less about obstruction and not acting.. even as they bitch about how they government is broken.  Ignorant Idiots..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:49
Retired justice Sandra Day O'Connor called the Senate out.  She was a Reagan appointee, but I think that she was fairly moderate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:39
I could be wrong but didn't one of the justices.. and a conservative one ..call out the Senate today for even considering dodging it's responsibilities.

oh btw...   you know the political year is going to be juicy.. and messy.. when the Pope himself gets involved LOL

Some Mick Points redeemed, for a Pope I really want to believe in, after that disaster of a US trip last fall....


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:34
I wonder what Scalia, who supposedly was such a staunch defender of the Constitution, would think of the idiots in the Party that more closely aligns with his way of thinking who want to stop the President from doing what the Constitution empowers him to do. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2016 at 01:34
In my experience the law is usually quite clear but overzealous litigators or govt (depending on who's petitioning) try to derive new meanings by playing with words which is what breaks the system. A law that would be completely unambiguous as if written in binary code would also be cruel and harsh with little room for relief in a case of genuine hardship. But people interpret words in ways that defy common sense to suit their interests and get away with it surprisingly often.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2016 at 20:13
^ The big problem there is language.   There should little to no room for interpretation of a written law; it should be crystal clear regardless of any ideology.   Even legalese itself is open to interpretation which is exactly what it isn't supposed to be.   But as you point out, law reflects life, and so do words.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2016 at 19:47
^ bingo Scott. IMO Law really is little different than life. There very little black and white.. especially concerning anything getting all the way to the Supreme Court. Only many shades of grey and one's interpretation of it is obviously influenced by ones ideology.
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Both the conservative and liberal judges rule according to the law when it comes to gray area cases...they just choose to rule by the law that is most convenient to uphold their ideological views.  Just like good Muslims and terrorist Muslims interpreting the Koran to push their ideological views or good Christians and conservative Republicans interpreting the bible to push their ideological views. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2016 at 18:38
That is an interesting article.  I would really like to hear the liberal counterpoint to that.  Because as a chartered accountant who deals with tax law, I don't find anything wrong with going strictly by the law and the notion that THAT's conservative/Republican is strange.  I would say he was simply doing his job as a judge.  It's not for the courts to legislate, it's for governments.  That governments are too populist to take tough decisions cannot be the judiciary's problem; they should remain objective.  I know here in India too the courts have way overstepped their boundaries in the name of activism but it ultimately only leads to problems (they are using the same activism to block reforms to the process of appointment of judges even when the Constitution gives the govt powers to decide the same). Or take their bizarre ruling blocking new registrations of large diesel SUVs in Delhi; they cannot legislate in this way but they have taken it over egged on by the enthusiastic public that sees them as more trustworthy than the govts. 

So what were some instances of Scalia's conservative leanings leading him to judgments that ignored the word of law in order to uphold his ideology?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timothy leary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2016 at 12:17
^ good to go now

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2016 at 11:27
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Antonin Scalia dead at 79.


I enjoyed this article about him.
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Antonin Scalia dead at 79.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rogerthat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2016 at 21:04
Will there be a national holiday on Monday in Germany? Wink  Just jk.  Well played Angie.  Serena's a great champion but it's always refreshing to see a different slam winner on the WTA.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldFriede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2016 at 20:17
Congrats to Angelique Kerber for winning the Australian Open against Serena Williams. You played a great match! And Serena, you are an absolute sportswoman and gracious in defeat.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2016 at 18:37
Well total meltdown can be an okay thing if one is looking to buy a house or invest in something that's cost will drop.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2016 at 16:48
I saw this yesterday and lead to .. what.. maybe 2 hours of reading through articles in the CNN Money section. Which NEVER happens haha.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/12/investing/markets-sell-everything-cataclysmic-year-rbs/index.html

are we heading toward total meltdown in 2016?  I really had no idea just how bad things were getting in China. For me ignorance is bliss when it comes to finances. Raff gets my paychecks and handles everything. I am a disaster at financial managment.

I tried the coke and hookers investment method once and while it made me happy, it sure did nothing to make me wealthier.


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