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Logan
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Posted: August 07 2017 at 13:25 | ||
Vander Graaf Generator |
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Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist
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siLLy puPPy
Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14778 |
Posted: August 07 2017 at 14:47 | ||
Doh! You win! That is perfect :) OK, their first album could be called Kobaiabluff
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YESESIS
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
Posted: August 07 2017 at 18:32 | ||
I don't know if you're supposed to vote in your own poll or not on here.. but I just voted for Magma. To help them out a little since they're way behind, and also because listening to a lot of their stuff I'm starting to get really into it! I wasn't able to that much with Van der Graaf Generator except for the second song on Pawn Hearts.
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Logan
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Posted: August 07 2017 at 19:14 | ||
Or, erm, ah, The Least We Can Do Iss Udu Wudo To Each Other. You win that one. ------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, I love both and my first inclination is not to choose, but there is more so much more Magma that I have and love. Between, studio and live albums, compilations etc., I think I have more Magma albums than by any other, save Ennio Morricone. |
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Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist
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someone_else
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24032 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 02:46 | ||
Hard to choose. Van der Graaf Generator just over Magma.
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Quinino
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 03:26 | ||
I'm a sucker for everything PH related, in or out of VDGG (but specially in)
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30845 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 11:07 | ||
The Graaf
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Wanorak
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 15:54 | ||
VDGG, no contest.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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socrates17
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 12 2014 Location: NJ, USA Status: Offline Points: 436 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 17:30 | ||
I adore VdGG and they've been central to my life since H to He, but Magma invented a new kind of music so I had to vote for them.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
Posted: August 08 2017 at 18:31 | ||
VDGG
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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YESESIS
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 18:38 | ||
Wow, this is getting to be a blowout here. Maybe I need to give VdGG another chance.. Also I realize now that I should have included a third option like, "I'm too passionate about both bands! I just.. I can't choose. I won't!" This is literally my first poll on here so I'm still learning, but in the future some third option like that will be included.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 33095 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 18:54 | ||
While most fans I know who are into Magma are also fans of VdGG, I know many who love VdGG who don't care much for Magma. Quite a few people don't like either band, as well.
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Just a music fan passing through trying to fill some void. Various music I am into now: a youtube playlist
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AFlowerKingCrimson
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 16534 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 18:58 | ||
I like both bands a lot but voted for VDGG. It would seem that both are a bit of an acquired taste also so for that reason this is a very good matchup.
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30845 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 19:07 | ||
I know many who think I am a psychopath when I put on some VdGG and Magma.
There's one dude, a long time ago, at a party who completely freaked out when he heard 'A Louse is not a Home'. The poor guy wasn't amused at all. Edited by Barbu - August 09 2017 at 19:08 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 16534 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 19:26 | ||
I remember reading once where a guy who had a female roomate who said that Magma(I think MDK in particular) was the worst music she ever heard. Lol.
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Dellinger
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12612 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:16 | ||
I don't know what you have heard from this band, nor if my selection would work the same for you, buy my particular very favourite songs from this band are: "Darkness", "Man-Erg", "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" (first half for me, after that it gets a bit too messy for my taste), "The Sleepwalkers", and "La Rossa". You might add "Refugees", though it's a bit too poppy for a band like this, but just because of that it can be a rather good gateway song for someone having trouble digesting their music. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15916 |
Posted: August 09 2017 at 21:39 | ||
I have to say here : when I first heard Crimso, it was their debut, then Lizard. I fell in love instantly. My first Magma dbl vinyl in 1989 was the Live album. I was too stoned to understand it then. To me, it was Satanic Jazz. It repulsed me. Fast forward 8 years of so, I picked up Udu Wudu and Attahk at a 1999 record fair. From then on, I was (sober and) hooked. Give it time. Similar story with VDGG, though I'm not advocating that you need to smoke dope to get into these guys - I'm (obviously) just a dumb-f**k that did it this way...... I'm sure there are many others......
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YESESIS
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
Posted: August 10 2017 at 19:18 | ||
Ok, I'll have to check out those songs. I was listening to H to He and liked the first two songs, but the lyrics seemed pretty dark idk.
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YESESIS
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
Posted: August 10 2017 at 19:21 | ||
Thank you all for your responses so far. Sounds like most Magma fans also like VdGG, but not necessarily the other way around. Which is odd because I'm really clicking with Magma a lot, but so far having trouble forming any real connection with VdGG.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 10 2017 at 21:23 | ||
Actually, it seems you chose the album I liked the least from the first albums I got from them. And yeah, those songs you mention are the ones I liked better, but for me the ones I wrote before were better. Perhaps you should have started with "The Least we can do"... also the first two songs are the better ones, but so much better to get one into the band than those from H to He. As for the lyrics, I haven't payed so much attention to them, but indeed they seem to be somewhat dark... and very well thought... some of the better ones from prog, but indeed I should check them out and analize them better. However, I don't see why these dark lyrics should be a detriment for the music, it's not like he's trying to convince people to do atrocities and all. Crimson's first album has lyrics at least as dark as these ones (what darker lyrics could you want than "Epitaph"?). And the lyric for Killer are actually rather silly, talking about a shark wanting to have friends and every fish in the ocean trying to escape him. |
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