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Poll Question: Which one will it be?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2017 at 20:01
Ah I see Marillion has now pulled into a tie with Eloy here. I listened to Yeti again today and.. no. I think that Amon Düül II is maybe not a good fit for me after all. But I am really loving Eloy and Marillion so far, they are both surprisingly good actually.

So thanks again everyone for your responses and keeping this thread alive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2017 at 04:03
Marillion just over Eloy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 20:47
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

^Once again, I don't get it (but I don't get much).


I guess he's calling the other guy 'Chips' so it will be like "Fish and Chips" or something like that. I'm not really sure though, I think he's just too clever for either of us really.

And it's interesting to me that they are currently in last place in the poll(though not by much).. yet they have been talked about way more than either of the other two bands so far in this thread..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 20:38
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I should be meditating more. I practice mindfulness, but am not mindful enough to do it regularly.


If you haven't read 'Being Peace' by Thich Nhat Hanh, I very highly recommend it.


I was lent the book by a psychologist/ Buddhist friend of mine years ago, but failed to read it then. I will look to get it. What I love about so much about Buddhist philosophy and practices is that it is so psychological-oriented, and although I wouldn't consider myself as religious, spending time at temples has been a "spiritual" experience for me. Meditation, particularly mindfulness, is something that has helped a lot in managing my dysfunctionality -- has helped me and in my interactions with others (being at peace with oneself and others). I know that I should put more time into it for my well-being and others. One of these days I would like to go to a meditation retreat.


Oh yeah, you're clearly someone who 'gets it.' I'm a Christian first myself. But the teachings Buddhism, along with my daily meditation practice have helped me immensely to be relaxed and at peace and to be able to smile and share my peace with others.

Temples can contain a lot of spiritual energy that can be an experience for sure. And always remember, "Present moment wonderful moment." :)  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 17:48
To me; 
 1 st : Eloy and his albums "Inside", "Oceans" and "Silent Cries and Might Echoes" 
 2 nd : Marillion and  "Script for a Jester's Tears", "Misplaced Childhood" and "Clutching At Straws" 
 3 rd :Amon Dull II and "Yeti" and "Tanz Der Lemminge"   
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 13:30
^Once again, I don't get it (but I don't get much).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 09:38
Marillion with either Fish or Chips. Both are swell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2017 at 08:49
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I should be meditating more. I practice mindfulness, but am not mindful enough to do it regularly.


If you haven't read 'Being Peace' by Thich Nhat Hanh, I very highly recommend it.


I was lent the book by a psychologist/ Buddhist friend of mine years ago, but failed to read it then. I will look to get it. What I love about so much about Buddhist philosophy and practices is that it is so psychological-oriented, and although I wouldn't consider myself as religious, spending time at temples has been a "spiritual" experience for me. Meditation, particularly mindfulness, is something that has helped a lot in managing my dysfunctionality -- has helped me and in my interactions with others (being at peace with oneself and others). I know that I should put more time into it for my well-being and others. One of these days I would like to go to a meditation retreat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2017 at 18:40
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I should be meditating more. I practice mindfulness, but am not mindful enough to do it regularly.


If you haven't read 'Being Peace' by Thich Nhat Hanh, I very highly recommend it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2017 at 17:53
I should be meditating more. I practice mindfulness, but am not mindful enough to do it regularly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2017 at 17:02
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I really appreciate all the input so far from everyone. And based partly on the fact that they're currently winning in this poll I just listened to Yeti again and imo it is VERY good. 
Hey - its cool they give bands and albums second chances (i noticed in the Breathless/Attahk-poll too). Plenty of bands I've come to love weren't instant love for sure - and some that were, aren't all that important to me now.


Yeah Magma for sure. The first time I heard MDK I thought it was terrible and couldn't understand why so many people on here liked it(thought a lot of them must just be saying that to fit in lol). But then someone on the thread you mentioned really turned me on to them with some live clips that I liked, and now I think that album is GREAT. In fact I use it often for my meditation. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2017 at 08:31
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

I really appreciate all the input so far from everyone. And based partly on the fact that they're currently winning in this poll I just listened to Yeti again and imo it is VERY good. 
Hey - its cool they give bands and albums second chances (i noticed in the Breathless/Attahk-poll too). Plenty of bands I've come to love weren't instant love for sure - and some that were, aren't all that important to me now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2017 at 08:21
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Any one of the Weekend CDs are far superior to Made Again, I think.

Let's just say that for the casual (read: normal) fan, Made Again is probably the best pick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2017 at 13:47
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

For Brave I was thinking about ordering Made Again.

Great, great live album Del, can't go wrong with Made Again.

This one's highly recommended too, probably my favorite live Hogarth:



Full Seasons End (disc 1) and terrific live versions of some of HITR best songs (disc 2). Here


Any one of the Weekend CDs are far superior to Made Again, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2017 at 12:15
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

For Brave I was thinking about ordering Made Again.

Great, great live album Del, can't go wrong with Made Again.

This one's highly recommended too, probably my favorite live Hogarth:



Full Seasons End (disc 1) and terrific live versions of some of HITR best songs (disc 2). Here

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2017 at 12:07
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

the only Marillion album I like is "Fugazi"; their other albums leave me absolutely cold, and some are outright horrible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2017 at 02:49
The great Amon Duul. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2017 at 23:35
I really appreciate all the input so far from everyone. And based partly on the fact that they're currently winning in this poll I just listened to Yeti again and imo it is VERY good. Not to diss the other bands though, Ocean is certainly a quite pleasurable listening experience and obviously Script.. by Marillion is really good as well(as Dellinger mentioned). And Lazland, I will have to check out some of that Other Guy's stuff with Marillion now(Hogarth).. Afraid of Sunlight, Brave, Marbles, and FEAR. Thanks again everyone. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2017 at 22:17
My personal favorite of these is Amon Duul II, their LP "Wolf City" rates with other classics of the era.  RIP bassist Lothar Meid, one of my favorites!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2017 at 21:23
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

As per usual, this type of poll brings out the factions on PA, and that is no bad thing. We all love our music under the common prog banner.

I have dabbled in some Eloy, and liked what I heard, but not enough to go bonkers. Duul leaves me utterly cold, and it will come as absolutely no surprise at all to realise that I not only recommend Marillion, but specifically Hograth era Marillion.

There was an interesting thread started about Twelfth Night recently. I tried to respond to an interesting post by Greg (Logan), but was denied by the Access Denied error message repeatedly, and gave up.

I will try again here. For me, prog was always about lifting guitars, swirling keyboards, melody, passion, love, and, above all, tunes I could relate to. I got into classic symphonic prog, some of the heavier stuff, and a metal phase when younger. I abhorred the more, ahem, "challenging" Canterbury, Zeuhl, and etc. Not that it is not clever, it just leaves me utterly cold. No melody, man.

When the 80's revival began (I rather dislike the term neo prog), it was like a blast of love washing over my ears. Bands who had their influences on their sleeves, but who, by and large, took a more post punk attitude to said influences. Marillion were the capo di capi, but IQ, Pallas, Pendragon, Twelfth Night, and others played a big part. The first four continue to make excellent and relevant music.

And here is the point about them. They have all progressed. They have all moved forward. Indeed, if you want to hear a bunch of artists who have taken a template, and shifted said template into completely new areas, then look no further than the classic neo bands. Marillion released their 17th studio album this year. f**k Everyone and Run is an album made in 2017 and absolutely relevant to 2017. They still sell out decent sized venues, and have a rapport with their fan base which is the envy of many artists. IQ have had an amazing run of albums, culminating in their finest, Road of Bones. Pendragon continue to shift forward, with varied rock influences.

So, some recommendations if you want to hear said progression. You already have some early Fish era Marillion. For Hogarth era, go for Afraid of Sunlight, Brave, Marbles, and FEAR. These are classics, and you cannot go wrong. IQ, go for Seventh House, Dark Matter, and Road of Bones. Pendragon, go for Masquerade Overture, This World, Passion, and Men Who Climb Mountains. In each of these, you will hear beauty, melody, rock, stunning stories, and progressive rock at its finest. Micky can call it what he likes. I call it prog rock which tickles the Lazland earbuds, and a sequence of albums which progress.


My first Hogarth era album was "Sounds that can't be made", after getting to know the Fish era well enough. And actually, I liked that album very much, as well as a live album from the same tour... so I expected more from FEAR... yet it left me a bit cold. I just didn't find it as beautiful as the one before. I also got a few live album from H era, and in general I don't feel they are at the same level as the Fish era (nor Sounds that can't be made). I guess I will still get Brave and Marbles (I did love Neverland)... perhaps in live albums in which they are both played completley, so that I get a few more songs from the era apart from those two albums (Marbles in the Park was available on the local music store, but when I at last made up my mind to get that one they didn't have it anymore... I hope they'll re-stock it again at least one more time (otherwise I guess I'll need to choose if I'll try to order Marbles by the Park or Marbles by the Sea). For Brave I was thinking about ordering Made Again.
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