Trespass - an overlooked Genesis classic? |
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someone_else
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Trespass was a giant step towards artistic maturity for Genesis. Side 1 is pretty good, side 2 reaches masterpiece level (Stagnation, The Knife). Compared to this one, FGtR sounded like a schoolboy album, a dragon launched too young.
You might give Camelias Garden a chance. It sounds rather pastoral in a way, thus reminding me of Trespass. Edited by someone_else - November 09 2017 at 05:57 |
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presdoug
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It is my favourite Genesis album; there is something so special about Trespass-an atmosphere all it's own.
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Regarding things ' like Trespass'......one of my favorites is Fantasy....especially the second one called Beyond the Beyond.
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Very good album but the real magic started on the next release.
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TerLJack
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Love it. I love others more, but I still come back to this one again and again. Stagnation is the pick for me. The build into Peter's ferocious vocal is mind-blowing.
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tdfloyd
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Excellent album. I give it much more time then any of the Gabriel led albums up to the Lamb. No bad tracks here. For me The Knife is the track that sticks out but not in a good way.
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YESESIS
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I agree.
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YESESIS
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What's interesting is, they literally got better with each release through their first 5 albums(imo). How many bands can you say that about? And I even like the first album, although it sounds very 60's.
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The.Crimson.King
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I've always loved Trespass...especially Visions of Angels & Looking for Someone
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Visions of Angels is good. Over all I would say the best tracks are "the knife" and "stagnation." The only one that's not that great is "dusk."
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Prog Sothoth
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Man I dig "Dusk". Gorgeous little bugger.
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richardh
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The Knife was actually inspired by The Nice - Rondo (Rutherford was a fan and brought it to Banks attention) . very Emersonesque . I never liked the Genesis Live version. Collins playing it was similar to Palmer playing Rondo in ELP. Too busy. Its needs that solid uncomplicated drumming to make it work properly. The rest of the album is nice enough . Dusk and Stagnation stand out for me but as already said The Musical Box was a big stride forward with the added clout of Hackett and Collins (much like Wakeman and Howe elevated Yes around the same time).
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Blacksword
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That surprises me, re; the Genesis live version. I much prefer the live version, mostly thanks to Collins I love Stagnation too. A contender for best track on the album alongside The Knife. Edited by Blacksword - November 10 2017 at 03:08 |
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Barbu
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White Mountain, baby.
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lostrom
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Overlooked? It is highly regarded - and rightfully so.
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MattGuitat
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I really like and always preferred it to Nursery Cryme until recently (Salamacis and I didn't click well until a few weeks ago). I usually rank it on par with Trick of the Tail. Its definitely rawer and tracks like White Mountain and Stagnation (great track, but it could've used a little more structure) show that they were still learning how to flesh out a song properly, but tracks like Looking for Someone and The Knife show how could they were at composing at even such a young age.
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HackettFan
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I play Trespass frequently. I never overlooked it. It's a very rare gem. One thing you can't do is listen to any Neo Prog and hear Trespass. It really has a very unique flavor among the five, while still foreshadowing all of them. My favorites are Looking for Someone, White Mountain, and Dusk...it's all good except for Visions of Angels, which I often skip over, but even that's better than some weak tracks on some of the other five. It's so interesting hearing how they achieved such symphonic sound without the aid of a mellotron (I marvel at the same thing with Focus too).
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Big Swifty
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Probably my least-played Genesis record. Some great cuts on there. The Knife is my favorite track.
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That's really interesting you say that. To me the Collins version of The Knife, in Genesis Live (1973) is so much better, yet as an album, I prefer Trespass, without Collins, to Nursery Cryme, with Collins. It's the same with Script For A Jester's Tear, which is an album I really love. I so much prefer Mosley to Pointer as a drummer, yet Script For A Jester's Tear is a much better album than Fugazi. Maybe it's the fact that the first Marillion album features their best material which they are anxious to release first. Then with Trespass you have a situation where Anthony Phillips favours 12-string guitar over Steve Hackett, who favours electric guitar. So if Steve Hackett had played on the Trespass studio album would the album had been just as good. All you can say is that Trespass recorded with Phil Collins and Steve Hackett would have been a much different album to the album we listen to. But would it have been better? Who can say?
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Boojieboy
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I love Trespass; there's nothing overlooked about it. I think it was the third album that I heard from them, borrowed from a good friend of mine, and eventually my own.
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