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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Tangerine Dream and VDGG are certainly classic progressive music; though might be a little difficult to get into them, it's quite worth it. IQ's music is more tamed compared to them, though many prog fans tend to think they are a great band.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19444 |
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Which albums did you hear?
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19444 |
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As a TD fanboy since '85, that statement cannot be more true! TD's run the gamut from acid-psych to e-prog to film score. They even flirted with symph on Cyclone. I finally settled on my fave "years" as 1973-89, beginning with the appearance of the beloved Froese-Franke-Baumann on Atem, all the way down to Miracle Mile, their last truly great film soundtrack (which is a better "album," IMO, than either Optical Race (1989) or Lily On The Beach (1989). My fave line-up is Franke-Froese-Schmoelling (1980-85, from Pergamon/Quichotte through Le Parc, and the Froese/Schmoelling record Kyoto). P.S. Miracle Mile was recently remastered and reissued as a 2CD with bonus material. |
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axeman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 13 2008 Location: Michigan, US Status: Offline Points: 235 |
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I never heard anything from Tangerine Dream that has impressed me. Which is why I never waded further into their catalog. Which I might try, thanks to this thread.
I like IQ, and they're doing great work right now. But if you can acquire the appreciation of Hammil's vocal, VdGG is quite the more central figure in Prog. However, if you don't like negative lyrics, then perhaps it's just not your thing.
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-John
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Wanorak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574 |
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VDGG.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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I voted VDGG because they've always been in my top 3 fave bands...but your appraisal of the lyrics is definitely a thing with both VDGG and Hammill solo albums. I'm not sure though that I'd say the lyrics themselves are negative in tone so much as they approach negative topics. It's tough to sing about the inquisition in a way to bring a smile. You have to be in the right frame of mind to dive into the lyrics to White Hammer, Still Life, Emporer in his War Room, Patient, etc...on the other hand, one listen a day to Aerosol Grey Machine or Sunshine is enough to cheer me up for hours ![]() Edited by The.Crimson.King - December 12 2017 at 09:23 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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I mentioned loving Ricochet before, but it was a sloppily composed sentence. I used to be particularly into the pre-Phaedra albums, but I now love all of those albums you mentioned and more. While not the first I heard, Phaedra was the first TD album I bought, but the band really clicked for me while in my mid-2000s Prog phase when I got Electronic Meditation, then Alpha Centauri, and then Aten. Zeit took a little longer to fully appreciate. Ricochet I loved on first spin, but it was a later acquisition. Nowadays I like all of the 70s studio albums considerably and I enjoy various 80s ones too. As Samuel mentions, it's a massive discography and there's pretty much something for every taste. I've grown to appreciate various TD "phases" and still have a lot of music by the band to explore. There are various live and compilation albums that I want to get. In the late 80s through 90s, late 70s through 80s TD would have been more my style than the early albums as I was very into such stuff then. Edited by Logan - December 12 2017 at 08:27 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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VDGG get my vote!
I love some Tangerine Dream (notably around the Rubicon era) IQ I can take or leave these days. Not a big neo fan, althogh I've seen them a few times and they're a great live act. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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I love TD .... but I love different albums than Logan does... :)
Phaedra, Rubycon, Ricochet ... Amazing |
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Prog On!
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5536 |
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Van der Graaf Generator and IQ
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24858 |
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All of these bands have some good albums. My favourite of these is Van der Graaf Generator nowadays. Peter Hammill's vocals are an acquired taste.
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10281 |
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It's got to be TD! I believe the band has something for everyone, you just have to find it in their massive discography :P Looks like Greg pointed you to the right direction though.
I didn't like any VdGG until a few months ago and none of the top rated albums did it for me, but "The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome" and "Vital" did.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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Glad you liked it.
Some others you might enjoy: Silver Scale Valley of the Sun (this is representative of the kind of music I used to be really big on). Tangerine Dream - Horizon from 1983 (picks up into the track): Edited by Logan - December 11 2017 at 22:28 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
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Geez you really do know your stuff, that song was wonderful for meditating. And I may have to try VdGG again, there's at least hope for them lol. King Crimson, IQ, Opeth.. I don't think so. Magma I want to like, but oh well. And this Tangerine Dream, if they have more stuff like THAT... I'm so in. Thank you for posting that. I'll have to listen to Ricochet album some time.
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
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Thanks for the suggestions man.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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Try meditating to this: Anyway, I love both VdGG, especially for, as I've said before, The Least we Can Do Is Wave to Eachother -- I find Refugees and Out of My Book lovely, and I love TD. That said, I vote for TD. I used to only really love the first four albums by TD and the, I think really excellent Ricochet which I recommend you close your eyes to and give a spin at some time, but I've grown to like far more by the act. Hopefully you will come up with a VdGG songlist that you like (was going to suggest that too) even if you don't like full albums. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12868 |
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I know very little TD and IQ, just one album, but VDGG are really a prog legend, so I guess it should be them. What is it that you have heard and not liked... or disliked less (or perhaps something you have actually liked). If now whole album had done the trick for you, then perhaps some songs? My particular list of very very favourite songs are: Darkness, Man-Erg, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (first 10 1/2 min), The Sleepwalkers, La Rossa. And perhaps the very best songs to try to warm up to them would be Darkness and Refugees. Now, on an off-topic recommendation, since you already have had some time to get into Neal Morse (surely much more than myself), if you haven't, you should really check out Big Big Train (from Underfall Yard until now, very specially the English Electric albums), they are really great, warm, positive, etc, with a very Genesis-like pastoral (and symphonic) feel (but without the trademark Gabriel theatrics).
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YESESIS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2017 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 2215 |
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Larkstongue41 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 07 2015 Location: Eastern Canada Status: Offline Points: 1360 |
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^ My pleasure. Since you mention Zappa, let me randomly suggest you to check out Samla Mammas Manna. Quite similar to Zappa both musically and humouristically, you should dig them.
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