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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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Same here, I believe its one of the most important and groundbreaking progressive albums as well, and i'm not really even a prog metal guy.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 35535 |
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Me neither. The only two Progressive Metal bands I like are Dream Theater and Ayreon.
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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I also want to add that this individual has given a one star rating to every single dream theater album. If he is "unable to sit through images and words" I highly doubt he has listened to the other ones.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 35535 |
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Yes, that sounds like a very dodgy hatchet job, specifically targeting Dream Theater if he's given all of their albums a one-star rating. ![]() |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20532 |
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We seem to have gone from nothing but 5 star reviews to 1 star reviews. The Yin and Yang of PA.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 35535 |
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Too true. Anyone who gives a bunch of 1-star reviews to a whole string of albums all by the same artist has to be a bit suspect.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 19965 |
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I think I know which string of albums you're referring to. You can be pretty sure he hasn't listened to all of them.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 35535 |
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Yes, it's the Dream Theater albums mentioned earlier in this thread. He didn't mention anything about the music or songs on the "Images and Words" album and he even admitted that he hadn't even listened to the album. All he wanted to do was tell us how much he hated Dream Theater. Here's the "review":- " ![]() |
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fuxi ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2459 |
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Re: Review #2309710 (Big Big Train, REFLECTORS OF LIGHT)
The review states that (during a gig) 'a man from upstairs got angry and started shooting at the band'. What the reviewer meant, was that the man started SHOUTING. (I was at the gig in question, sitting upstairs, just a few feet from the man in question. If he'd started 'shooting' I'm sure we'd all have heard about it.) I sent a message to the reviewer but they haven't replied. Perhaps someone could send them a reminder? |
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fuxi ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2459 |
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It was brutal. During the first half, all we could hear up there was the lead singer and the drummer (Nick D'Virgilio). No wonder that man started shouting! I wrote about the incident in my review of the live CD: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2010228 |
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This guy is ratings only http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=20306 but does he hold a record for most 1 star rated albums? This guys doesn't seem to like too many prog albums. Although this justaguy gives him a run for his money. http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32645. Kind of interesting how many of his first reviews were 4 and 5 stars but most everything since is 1 and 2 stars.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 35535 |
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Crikey! That's unbelievable, although I don't know any of the albums he's given one-star ratings to.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14810 |
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I'm sure this has been discussed before but no idea where to find it if so. I'm just wondering why it's permissible to post ratings and reviews on albums before their release date. Current example is Pendragon which isn't released until 17 Febr. Review doesn't really sound like it was even listened to. Just wondering. In a perfect world albums could be locked until the day of release. Probably not gonna happen i know :D
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TCat ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 07 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 11612 |
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Whether its written down or not, you would think it would be a common sense policy that things shouldn't be rated or reviewed until the day of release, except for when requested from the artist with an advance copy, which happens. If that is the case however, then it should be noted in the review. Otherwise, it should not be permitted. If a review doesn't find a way of showing that the album was listened to, then it should be deleted. |
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All ratings and reviews removed from latest Pendragon release.
Just as a reminder to everyone, we don't have the ability to lock an album. Also we can't clear an album of reviews and ratings all at once, but we have to delete each one very slowly, one by one. We might cleanup any reviews that don't mention that they received a preview copy like TCat said, but if there are too many we might just delete the album before the release date to make it easier on everyone.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13363 |
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just to clarify re Pendragon, I pre-ordered, and have had my copy for about a month, so it is entirely possible the reviewer did the same.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 14810 |
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^ i guess there's no official policy about release dates but if preordered and received it then I guess that means the release dare doesn't mean much.
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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Any word on these reviews?
OP admits he hasn't listened to the album, has given every DT album one star reviews Doesn't seem like reviewer has listened to the full album, just describes it in very vague terms and only mentions the opening track Reviewer says nothing about the album, just calls them an anglagard rip off in a bare minimum review
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TCat ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 07 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 11612 |
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I don't think it would be a good idea to delete albums before the release date. Other music sites always announce albums as soon as they can be verified and it gives that site an "edge" of sorts. I have noticed that other sites link to Prog Archives as verification of a release, meaning that other sites look to our site for announcements of new releases and such. It may be difficult to police a site like this though, and I understand it would be a nightmare to go back and delete reviews that were made in the past, but can we delete them as they are reported? I thought that was one of the reasons for this thread. I re-read the rules at the beginning of the thread, but it doesn't mention anything about reviewing albums before the release date, though I think that it would be something to discuss, maybe by making it a rule to mention that it is an advanced copy or a request from the artist, or something to that effect. I'm only making suggestions, and obviously I don't know all the quirks of administering this site, so remember these are only my naïve suggestions. But it does seem the site is somewhat respected as a worthy source of progressive music releases and reviews. |
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