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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote irrelevant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2020 at 08:04
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Thanks, done. Changed also the release year to 1989.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2020 at 10:40
^ Thanks, Mayer, done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2020 at 18:38
Not sure if this is an error, but this release was also released as a live video on DVD/Blu-Ray


I ordered it and noticed it wasn't listed under their live videos. I notice on this page it references the DVD release so i'm not sure if it's all just being kept under this page.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2020 at 20:03
^ Thanks, it seems some explanation would be helpful.

You know, live records are often released in multiple versions: 
- Audio+Video (CD+DVD or CD+BD etc)
- Audio only (CD or/and LP or/and Digital album etc)
- Video only (DVD or/and BD, also VHS, which now isn't the case).

It's clear in 2 last cases - Audio only releases go to Live albums, Video only - to DVDs and videos.
When someone adds Audio+Video release he/she always decides whether add it to Live albums or to Videos. In case of mentioned Opeth release it was added to Live. I think it's OK.

Here are all (or almost all) versions of "Garden of the Titans: Live at Red Rocks Amphitheatre".  I've updated the current release page on PA (added times etc) accordingly.

I see the only one Video version: https://www.discogs.com/Opeth-Garden-Of-The-Titans-Opeth-Live-At-Red-Rocks-Amphitheatre/release/12588045 and it's a promo DVD. Pesonally I wouldn't bother to add it as a separate video release.
But if you know that official DVD or BD version (without CDs or LPs) exist, you may add it to Videos.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2020 at 05:53
^ That makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for the detailed response!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mbzr48 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2020 at 14:42
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66962

Today is the 3rd time this album shows up again when it's clear that it's available as an EP for awhile, maybe it shouldn't be under EP's since it's over 35 minutes long and that will solve the duplication issue
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^Removed, thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neu!mann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 06:46
It was a good idea to separate the band Organization off the Kraftwerk page to one of its own. But the photo on their new page shows Michael Rother and Klaus Dinger (of Neu!), not anyone who was in Organization.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 07:23
^ Please post here or give a link to correct ORGANISATION photo, I'll change the current one.
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So, I checked and there aren't ANY photos of Organization, anywhere on the web! But here's a few screenshots from a YouTube video of a rare 1970 TV performance, apparently the only visual record left of the band now...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 09:31
^ I've found a couple of photos here

Can make of them something like this:

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neu!mann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 09:54
Closer, but these are very early Kraftwerk photos, with Klaus Dinger (center of the trio) and Eberhard Kranemann. Maybe use this pic, from the same era but of Ralf and Florian, the two founders of Organization who went on to become Kraftwerk:
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 15:31
^ I'm not a Kraftwerk - Organisation specialist, but we have a photo of 4 Organisation members 

and need the pic of the 5th member.

Is the guy in glasses the right person?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neu!mann Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2020 at 17:02
Yes: that's Ralf Hutter in the glasses; he and Florian Schneider (together in the last photo I shared) were the primary members of Organization, and later Kraftwerk. I think the picture of the four guys is actually a very early Kraftwerk line-up: that looks like Klaus Dinger, with the folded arms (Kraftwerk's first drummer, before he founded Neu!); Florian Schneider (clean-shaven) is to his left; and the guy next to Florian is Eberhard Kranemann, who was around after Organization.

That's why I recommended the duo portrait of just Ralf and Florian...when we think of Organization, it's usually as the predecessor of Kraftwerk, and these two were the brains behind both groups. It's too bad there isn't a good band portrait of the earlier Organization, but honestly either of these pics is probably as close as you'll get.

Thanks for putting the time into the correction...in the grand scheme of things it isn't a big deal, but I can see a diehard Krautrocker getting bent out of shape by seeing the wrong band presented!
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^ Thanks, done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2020 at 09:03
^ Thanks, done.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2020 at 09:38
Is there any chance the header on the forums could take us to the Progarchives home page instead of the Kraftwerk page? It's a bit of a minor inconvenience. 
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