Yes - Drama vs 90125

I'm waiting for the Tormato  vs. Open Your Eyes poll. 

stewe wrote: twosteves wrote: Manuel wrote: I'm not particularly fond of either, though I agree they're not bad albums. For some reason, I don't find the Yes magic in either album. I know what you are saying---but voted for the album that has one of a kind genius (who can do anything) on guitar---Howe. Even if the music isn't 100% magic its always great to hear him play. I love Steve Howe's guitar, from The Yes Album to Relayer, these are among my favorite guitar albums of all time, I love the feeling, the tone, but..... as a guitarist myself, I disagree he can do anything with guitar. On the other hand, especially in later period (80s and on..) he is quite tedious, not inventive anymore (he is obviously in it only for money), his live playing is often sloppy and generally he is stuck mostly in his Chet Atkins's (albeit upgraded) country-tinged guitar. He cannot play clear fast staccato or adjust himself for heavier styles. He is versatile in terms of changing plethora of different string instruments but not much in style range. Technically he is overrated imo, his parts are not difficult to master (although his tone and writing style in early period are still very unique).

Upgraded from Chet Atkins? Yikes! Chet was the man! It’s true though that if you’re a Steve Howe fan, you essentially dig country. You just may not realize it yet.      There is much common ground amongst Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler, Les Paul, Mary Ford, and Steve Howe. It’s not really the country music of today, which I’m sorry - I don’t really like much of it. But, Chet Atkins, Les Paul, and Mary Ford were huge trailblazers on guitar, and they blended numerous styles, including classical, bluegrass, jazz, folk, Spanish, etc. It was at times, a very complex version of country. There is a video of Les Paul and Chet Atkins trading licks on a talk show. Fast arpeggios and all sorts of fun. Chet could even pull off Recuerdos de la Alhambra in concert, which is an extremely difficult tremolo picking piece. Steve Howe was not an upgrade of Chet Atkins. Sheeeeesh. They might have come from a similar place, but (country music fans) each was great in his own way.

Link to Les Paul and Chet Atkins

Edited by Jaketejas - July 13 2020 at 11:25

Jaketejas wrote: stewe wrote: twosteves wrote: Manuel wrote: I'm not particularly fond of either, though I agree they're not bad albums. For some reason, I don't find the Yes magic in either album. I know what you are saying---but voted for the album that has one of a kind genius (who can do anything) on guitar---Howe. Even if the music isn't 100% magic its always great to hear him play. I love Steve Howe's guitar, from The Yes Album to Relayer, these are among my favorite guitar albums of all time, I love the feeling, the tone, but..... as a guitarist myself, I disagree he can do anything with guitar. On the other hand, especially in later period (80s and on..) he is quite tedious, not inventive anymore (he is obviously in it only for money), his live playing is often sloppy and generally he is stuck mostly in his Chet Atkins's (albeit upgraded) country-tinged guitar. He cannot play clear fast staccato or adjust himself for heavier styles. He is versatile in terms of changing plethora of different string instruments but not much in style range. Technically he is overrated imo, his parts are not difficult to master (although his tone and writing style in early period are still very unique). Upgraded from Chet Atkins? Yikes! Chet was the man! It’s true though that if you’re a Steve Howe fan, you essentially dig country. You just may not realize it yet.      There is much common ground amongst Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler, Les Paul, Mary Ford, and Steve Howe. It’s not really the country music of today, which I’m sorry - I don’t really like much of it. But, Chet Atkins, Les Paul, and Mary Ford were huge trailblazers on guitar, and they blended numerous styles, including classical, bluegrass, jazz, folk, Spanish, etc. It was at times, a very complex version of country. There is a video of Les Paul and Chet Atkins trading licks on a talk show. Fast arpeggios and all sorts of fun. Chet could even pull off Recuerdos de la Alhambra in concert, which is an extremely difficult tremolo picking piece. Steve Howe was not an upgrade of Chet Atkins. Sheeeeesh. They might have come from a similar place, but (country music fans) each was great in his own way.

questionsneverknown wrote: Drama is up there with my favourite albums by Yes. I liked Beverly Hills 90210/90125/OU812 at the time, but don't tend to listen to it much these days.

Another easy one.

90125
90125
90125
90125
90125
90125!!!

Not fake Yes!

There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty!

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Jaketejas wrote: 90125 90125 90125 90125 90125 90125!!! Not fake Yes! There. I think I countered them all. I love Drama (see other thread) but 90125 kicks booty! No, just the one the really young people like.

Maybe they need to make some Changes. It Can Happen you know! Well, I’ll Leave It at that.

It happens to everyone eventually (well played, though )

It can happen today!

It looks like I’m Running out of options.