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Manuel
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Follow You Follow Me. Even though is a good song, it was intended to appeal to the more radio-oriented audience of the times.
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^ I can go with that
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Me too @Psychedelic Phil...For mw the downhill onwards was the single "Follow You, Follow Me" but the album apart from FYFM and MTM is a great album and i agree with @Psycchedelic Phil on the everything after 1980 Duke onwards for me too!
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Invisible Touch.
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indeed
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Sean Trane
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they didn't jump the shark on singes, but with album, IMHO. ATTWT
and Duke, ASAIAC, they're still honest attemps at being themselves in a
changing musical landscape, despite three crummy single hits singles
(not sure YOSW was a "hit" or a "single", though) to promote their
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Well Genesis always had those sugary bits once per album or so (More Fool Me, Carpet Crawlers, Ripples, Your Own Special Way), some of them better and some worse (definitely had too much of it on Wind & Wuthering...) But only later they deliberately tried to come up with a pop hit and didn't bother to hide it, so maybe I will vote on Follow You Follow Me.
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richardh
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I do like Dodo/Lurker , Keep It Dark and the title track. The production was excellent but there are some real stinkers on that album admittedly. I don't mind No Reply (okay its essentially a Collins solo track and so is 'filler' but I don't hate it). I was depressed at the time though because they were clearly handing in their 'prog badge' and were not shy to say it. But as everyone else was doing the same then it wasn't surprising. Although the 'Shapes' album gets praised I've always found it insipid. I also hate Mama way more than anything else they did! |
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the only thing I don't mind on Abacrep is Abacab (title track), the rest is atrocious iMHO.... not least the fault of Paghdam, which was the architect of so many awful 80's albums. Yeah, at first, heavy WTF for Mama, but it's still miles better than Shapes' filpside and the awful IT. If I hear Mama nowadays on the radio (where else what I hear it), I won't necessarily zap it away like I did back then. |
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Psychedelic Paul
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I wondered about doing a post-1970's Genesis albums poll, but there are really no albums worth voting for in my opinion, after "jumping the shark" with the 1980 Duke album.
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There are only a handful of songs of theirs that I don't like, but the one I despise is Anything She Does. Now I know that many here hate the whole Invisible Touch album, but I'm not one of them. But ASD is their lower than whale sh*t on the bottom of the ocean song.
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Well...everything after Wind was downhill for me so I guess with Follow You....
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Never mind the music, dressing up like a flower is shark jumping defined.
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well it was either that and steal from Italian bands like Osanna whom they toured with and made them look as boring as they were or ..not surprisingly get dropped by their label... |
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I don't really know. They successfully transitioned to a pop band so in that sense they achieved more than almost any band could be expected to. In fact, what I hated most about their 1980s sound was the loudness of the drumming. Absolutely intolerable for me on most of the tracks
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A flower? |
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Genesis aka Shapes
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Tom Ozric
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Did I say this already - it was a gradual progression. Maybe Abacab was the significant noticeable change, but it was heading that way since Wind and Wuthering. They never jumped as such, but grudually morphed into Pop style songs. They wrre good at what they did.
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^this They became much better SONGwriters with age. I mean of course, "The Musical Box", "Supper's Ready", "The Cinema Show", hell to the yeah and all that, but Shapes and Invisible Touch are both peak pop music for me |
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