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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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I think it depends on whom you introduce to prog music. If that person is someone you don't know anything about, I'd follow your path. If that person doesn't know anything about rock music, I'd go for a mellow or catchy song. If that is a very young person, I'd recommend a classic and a modern prog band, and so on and so forth. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 33166 |
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I like to gear my recommendations as much as possible to an individual’s tastes, so I would base my Prog recommendations based on what styles of music/ bands/ composers they already like. If I didn’t know that person’s tastes already, then I would try to find out more about what that person is into. My mother is most into classical music, and she liked Aranis. I would not have tried a very rock one with her. My wife is most into stuff like ABBA and The Carpenters, and kinds of folk based music, and I tried Mellow Candle’s Swaddling Song with her. Also played her some Renaissance, but she found the vocals whiny.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Great story! I remember listening to my father's jazz CD's and instantly being hooked. My intro to prog was through jazz, which I had an affinity for regardless (I think it's hereditary lol), and found Return to Forever, Camel, Cassiopea, etc!
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1007 |
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While I'm not that old, I still realize that practically every excellent thing in life cannot go on forever - not on Earth, at least. Everything tends to be getting spoiled.
Since I consider prog excellent... no chance it will be revived. Sorry. You can't reproduce The Battle Of Epping Forest, though the lyrics are available for everyone for free and the singing there is not that hard to analyze and imitate. The magic of Knots has gone, it returns when listening to the original Knots - not when you'll try to create something in the vein of. Experimental music will certainly exist till the end of the world. Excellent prog has died long ago. For me.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16594 |
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Hi, Nice listing ... but I can't help thinking that it shows how much the rest of Europe is being left behind ... by the time 2 of these were done, the German thing was almost coming to an end ... it's explosion of new music and their improvisational style, almost all gone!
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Davesax1965 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2826 |
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Prog is dead as a nit.
It's 2020. Prog was 50 years ago. Things move on. Is Dixieland jazz coming back ? Nope. |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17733 |
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You haven't been to Bourbon Street and the French Quarter in New Orleans...? Maybe you have, if not put on your bucket list...Wife and I went all the time when we lived there, Preservation Hall is a key stop. ![]() Although, prog is dead....I agree!!
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2457 |
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I used to love jazz too. I prefer jazz metal now. ![]() |
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
"I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
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Who? The reason I ask is because a while ago, I thought I'd devised a new genre of music by combining jazz and metal. When I googled "jazz metal", one group that I found was Counter-World Experience. |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20545 |
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For me it really hasn't changed much....I think it's about the same .
The same friends who were into it back in the early 70's are the same ones I know still listening to prog. I have tried to get my daughters and son in law into it but they are mostly into modern pop or alternative stuff. Most of the people my age aren't even into music that much and if they are it's radio friendly music. |
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Earl of Mar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2020 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1214 |
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For my two cents worth, last time I went to the pub with half a dozen mates, everybody was still listening to prog. Some were even still buying it. Cant get my daughter into it though, although she tells me her friends are listening to Zep,Sabbath, Maiden so perhaps some are listening to ore pure prog. Wno knows.
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We're on the same page, bro (same note?!).
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1007 |
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I was born in 1983 in Ukraine, then the part of the USSR. First time I met something of the style in 1995. Two vinyls of Gentle Giant: Three Friends (original British cover) and TPATG. Had no idea who they were, but the covers sure stuck in my mind. Later that year in August 1995 I bought a rock cyclopedia by Vitaly Menshikov (much later would be known as Progressor...). There I read that GG "played probably the most complex music in all of art rock".
I heard the band for the first time only in May 2002 and it changed my life forever. I was 18.9 y.o. at the time... My story is not anyhow characteristic, though. But, yeah, we exist. Which doesn't mean, the subject does anymore.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16594 |
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Hi,
(SOAP BOX MODE) Honestly, I would like to see this thread LOCKED ... PA WOULD NOT BE HERE IF THE MUSIC WAS DEAD ... and for the record, PA came up when the "music" was "supposedly" falling off the edge of the old world! (END SOAP BOX MODE) Enjoy your Sunday ... there's some football to watch ... (in America that is!)
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Davesax1965 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 23 2013 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2826 |
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One or two examples doesn't mean it's "alive".
I seem to remember the old hack "Punx not dead". Ohhhh yes it is. Define "alive". I define it as "commercially alive." As for PA not being here if the music was dead, what a ludicrous argument. Edited by Davesax1965 - October 16 2020 at 09:22 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20538 |
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Maybe the tread should have asked "how commercially viable is prog rock now?"
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 8897 |
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^ That would indeed be a more interesting question, imo. We recently had a thread about "can musicians make a living out of there music?" (I am not a musician so I didn't participate), but how many prog bands are able to make a living (for musicians and crew) out of their activities. I actually have no idea, but my intuition says that it is probably not that many...
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2457 |
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That's basically what I was originally asking with my first modern prog thread.
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"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp
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