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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.


What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.


The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols. 


I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.

Don't worry, many of the catholics mix Holy Trinity (God, Son of God, Holy Spirit) with Holy Family (Jesus (Son of God), Mary and Saint Joseph). 
Well, in catholic tradition cathedrals were not just walls, but also earthly representation of Heaven, of Kingdom to Come. So I think the process of building of the said La Sagrada Familia church (it is not cathedral of Barcelona) can also be the metaphore of bringing the Heaven, the Kingdom to Come. This is also about Christmas because commemorating the first coming of Christ (in the past) in tradition it is also celebrating the future coming of the Christ (the Kingdom to Come). 
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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.


What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.


The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols. 


I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.

I've been to it. It's amazing.
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Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Which is the greatest Prog Christmas album, the Tull one? What would you say?


I don't know so many Christmas albums, but yeah, I guess overall that's the one I have liked best so far.
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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.


What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.


The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols. 


I'm afraid I'm not catholic enough to know exactly what would be meant by the Holy Family... would it be the same as the Holy Trinity? However, what I get to understand about the mention of La Sagrada Familia, is not so much about it's concept for catholics, but about the Cathedral in Barcelona of the same name, and from which comes the name of the album, and which is explicitly mentioned at least in the opening narration, though perhaps not so clearly in the lyrics of the song itself.
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Which is the greatest Prog Christmas album, the Tull one? What would you say?
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.


What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.

The elements that I mention that are typical of christian beliefs related to Christmas. Indirect, like allusion to new hope, the journey of the wise men. And an element direct, mention of the Holy Family (which "La Sagrada Familia" literally means in Spanish). After all, Christmas in tradition was not only about the winter solstice but also about the nativity of Christ. This song, indirectly, reminded me of catholic carols. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

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Holy Lamb - Yes

Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.


I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?

Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.

My mistake, I was quoting extension written to Chris Hedges' book about Yes, written by polish journalist.
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Holy Lamb - Yes

Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.


I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?

Holy Lamb was about the harmonic convergence which was the first global meditation and not about Christmas.


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At least half of BG is prog or proggy:

Shoot high aim low
Holy Lamb (if wonderous stories is prog so is this)
I'm running
Final Eyes
Big Generator

The rest is admittedly rather poppy.
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Holy Lamb - Yes

Although the song is at Big Generator which is doubtfully a prog album.


I checked the lyrics for this one and didn't find much of a Christmas connection either. Is there anything I might be missing?
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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.


What's Christmasy about that song? I never noticed such a thing... and I do love that song, actually.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

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Hamburger Concerto, from Focus. The choir near the end is supposed to tell a passage from a traditional dutch chirstmas song...


Excellent suggestion, thank you Dellinger!  Finally, something new!!

We go through this exercise EVERY Yuletide, and it's always Greg Lake & "I Believe in Bloody Father Christmas!!"  


Well, it's not the first year I suggest that one, since I found out about the supposed origin of those choirs.
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Nobody mentions "La Sagrada Familia" by Alan Parsons Project

And have there chimes, choir, following the star, peace for lion and the lamb, the Holy Family. And mention of an architect who is close to be a saint.
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This is probably the best example of this I can think of.
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Just come across this.....
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Is Trans-Siberian Orchestra considered eclectic folk Christmas prog? Cool

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Liked the December People stuff.. unusual for me of that hybrid/cover albums. Maybe I'll take a look.

I'm sure is NOT what you're looking for LOL  but I cannot do without mentioning this beauty:

     The Endless Engima, Pt. 2 
        by ELP.


Beacuse of its beautiful (prog & Christmas) bells at the start and its sheer overall progressiveness. It always makes me think of Christmas.

Each time I hear it I imagine something like this (not exactly, but an elegant image of red bells with a green tree on the background):







And a bit of humour as a bonus track : P




Merry Christmas btw  Beer
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Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

Run With the Fox - Squire and White

I Am The Manic Whale have done a good version of this on their recent Christmas selection box release.

I also have to mention the Kate Bush album 50 Words for Snow, which is a bit proggy.
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