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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2021 at 08:47
^ Thanks, Mayer, both albums corrected.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71277

- Josh Hines / vocals, guitars

- Nick Rowse / drums, percussion
- Nick Stewart / bass, Keyboards
- Seth Wilson/ guitars
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2021 at 17:25
^ Thanks, Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57972

2017 not 2018 they even wrote on the release info 2017
https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Aria-On-The-Other-Side/release/11360359
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64879
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71422

Duplication, maybe the info from the 2nd should be added to the 1st
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote projeKct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2021 at 20:55
Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57972

2017 not 2018 they even wrote on the release info 2017
https://www.discogs.com/Dream-Aria-On-The-Other-Side/release/11360359

Thanks Mayer, done.
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64879
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71422

Duplication, maybe the info from the 2nd should be added to the 1st

I think we should keep it as a separate entry, it's a new recording. And I've updated it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andrea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2021 at 08:03
This album is in New Trolls discography (where, in my opinion, it shoudn't be)

and in New Trolls Atomic System discography:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2838

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote projeKct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2021 at 10:38
Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

This album is in New Trolls discography (where, in my opinion, it shoudn't be)

and in New Trolls Atomic System discography:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2838

Hi Andrea,

I've found several threads about this subject:
and

My friend Eugene could give us his advice...

Thanks anyway Smile
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4278
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61986

By the rules that I was told the 2 albums are duplication the 2nd one should be added or mentioned on the 1st one
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65205

The correct cover not missing the top
https://maracashrecords.bandcamp.com/album/banda-belzoni
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nick_h_nz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2021 at 15:15
Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4278
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61986

By the rules that I was told the 2 albums are duplication the 2nd one should be added or mentioned on the 1st one

But the second is a re-recording. So just as with (eg) Camel’s Snow Goose, the old and new recordings surely deserve individual entries?

I have recently added The Laughing Stock’s 2020 version of The Island. But like the Nemo albums you point out, or the Camel albums I used as an example, they are different recordings.

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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64879
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71422

Duplication, maybe the info from the 2nd should be added to the 1st

It’s not a duplication, and when I added it, I made sure to put in the additional information that it was a new recording with an altered track listing.

Just as with Nemo, that you are also erroneously (in my opinion) calling a duplication, and just as with Camel’s Snow Goose, it is a new recording with new cover art. Just like Nemo, it adds new material to the original album.

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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64879
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71422

Duplication, maybe the info from the 2nd should be added to the 1st

I think we should keep it as a separate entry, it's a new recording. And I've updated it.

Just saw this. Could you please let me know what the update was, as I can’t see what is different from what I submitted (but I am probably looking in the wrong place). I ask only because I would like to know for future reference, as this is only the second or third album I have added to the PA database, and I am aware I could easily be making mistakes.

Thanks for noting that it was a new recording, and deserving of a separate entry.

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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4278
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61986

By the rules that I was told the 2 albums are duplication the 2nd one should be added or mentioned on the 1st one

Mayer, there is a difference between a remix and a re-recording.

Remixes should be listed under the same entry, re-recordings should be separated.

At least, IMO... Wink
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65205

The correct cover not missing the top
https://maracashrecords.bandcamp.com/album/banda-belzoni
Great find, thanks Mayer!
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

This album is in New Trolls discography (where, in my opinion, it shoudn't be)

and in New Trolls Atomic System discography:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2838

Hi Andrea,

I've found several threads about this subject:
and

My friend Eugene could give us his advice...

Thanks anyway Smile

I think it's more or less easy, all we have to do is:
1. Ask this guy (last visit December 15, so I hope he's alive and well) to repost his review on N.T. Atomic System page. I've already sent him PM.
2. When he peposts his review ask admins to delete the album.
3. Go for champagne drink to celebrate our victory. Smile


For any case I save the review here:
Review by GruvanDahlman
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3 stars New Trolls is an interesting band, for sure. They developed from ye olde beat and pop/ rock of the sixties into an ever more progressive and eclectic band. I love the 'Concerto grosso', 'Searching for a new land' and 'UT'. Especially 'UT'. I find that album to be very varied, hard rocking and challenging album that grows on you. At first I didn't get it at all but it revealed itself after some time. Great album by a great band. 'Night on bare mountain' seems to be the following album and is quite interesting aswell.

Musically New Trolls stands in both classical elements and hard rock, creating a wonderful brew of progressive rock that spans across the universe. Quite evident is their love of jazz and folk, which adds to the great flavor of the album. I would say, however, that the music is less challenging on this one, compared to 'UT', but ot the other hand it feels more cohesive and held together. The good thing is that the songs are presented in a sort of uniform state, the problem is that the songs actually are similar to each other, resulting in an album of great material but nothing really stand out.

There is an abundance of marvellous instrumentation on this album. The title track is an electronic sounding, pulsating thing with an overly classical reference which works great. The massive amounts of keyboards, not to mention organ, is a treat and being a fan of keyboards I cannot be anything other than amused. There is a delicate feel to it all that is at times abruptly interrupted by outbursts of heavy rock. That is very enjoyable and one is kept on ones toes, actually.

As far as individual tracks are concerned, every song is great and better. When I listen to the album I really nod my head in recognition. 'This is so great', I find myself saying, and I mean it. The music is really great in all it's jazzy progressive rock. It is wonderful. But I cannot really pick any one track out, apart from the title track. I cannot hum them. That is a shame, because the songs are really good. Maybe it's the similarities they share that is to blame? I don't really know. Or perhaps this album marks a decline in the fortunes of the New Trolls? Whatever the reason, I find that 'Night on bare mountain' is really enjoyable and well performed, simply not outstanding. I wish for it to be released on CD, some day, because then I will buy it. If you haven't listened to New Trolls, start with 'Concerto grosso' or 'UT'. Save this one for later.





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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64879
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71422

Duplication, maybe the info from the 2nd should be added to the 1st

I think we should keep it as a separate entry, it's a new recording. And I've updated it.

Just saw this. Could you please let me know what the update was, as I can’t see what is different from what I submitted (but I am probably looking in the wrong place). I ask only because I would like to know for future reference, as this is only the second or third album I have added to the PA database, and I am aware I could easily be making mistakes.

Thanks for noting that it was a new recording, and deserving of a separate entry.


Hi Nick,

Thanks for you passion! Smile

Well, I've added Total Time 51:28 and Bonus tracks on Digital album because there are not on the LP. Is there a CD edition? I did not see it anywhere...

Also all instruments in lowercases.

And more details in the Releases information:
LP Apollon Records - ARP032LP (2020, Norway)
Digital album (July 14, 2020) with 2 bonus tracks

You're welcome! Wink
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57920 times:

1. Slipstream (5:39)
2. The Man Who Saw Through Time (11:54)
3. Snowblind (7:14)
4. Innocent (4:31)
5. Stars and Satellites (7:29)
6. Mission Profile (8:48)
7. Pilot in the Sky of Dreams (10:01)
8. Hollow (4:06)
9. Lost in Translation (10:26)
10. Small Dark Lines (6:44)

Source: https://www.amazon.com/Two-Zero-One-Seven-Live-Threshold/dp/B07HLGCM7S
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^ Thanks, done.
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