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3LP Live! Yessongs vs. Welcome Back My Friends... |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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You should have thrown "Lotus" by Santana into the competition too; my vote would have gone there. Since it is missing Yes get my vote.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30614 |
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there are at least a couple that I really like 2009 Deluxe Edition (Leadclass) 2016 Remaster (BMG) I don't think it will get any better to be honest. I know a lot of people consider it has a 'muddy sound' because it's so much weaker than the crystal clarity of Pictures but I think that's just how it is and no amount of remastering will fix it sadly. |
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20072 |
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I'm more of a Yes fan than ELP but in this case I would probably vote for ELP. It has a better versions of Tocatta, Tarkus (particularly the wonderful Aquatarkus), Take a Pebble has a much better piano section and it has the piano improvisations, so ELP wins it for me for being more different to the studio versions.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30614 |
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I'm not sure I totally agree. The bootleg I have of ELP at at Rich Stadium in 1974 is probably their best performance on that tour. Their best performance <period> was probably at Mar y Sol in 1972 but that was pre BSS.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30614 |
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I do like the extended version of Yours Is No Disgrace and Six Wives excerpts of Yessongs but nevertheless voted for ELP. KE9 , Hoedown , Toccata and Tarkus are better for me than than the studio versions. Take A Pebble does drag though. I would have removed the whole acoustic/medley section and included the Pictures encore instead.
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Rick1 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 14 2020 Location: Loughborough UK Status: Offline Points: 3162 |
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Really? I love the 'Pebble' section - and the 'conclusion' is wonderful. We moaned about them not doing the conclusion in the hotel bar after High Voltage. |
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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WBMFTTSTNELAGELP A mouthful to be sure, but an unparalleled version of Tarkus, an incredible piano exploration with Piano Improvisation and a grand finale with Karn Evil 9. Plus...I just got a replacement LP version copy for my collection from Discogs last Friday. Neither has the best sound quality so my choice is based purely on performance.
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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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ELP here
not crazy about some of the live versions on Yessongs The studio versions are so much better ( at least for me ).
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VianaProghead ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 15 2015 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3069 |
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Two massive triple live albums that I love that belong to two of my favourite prog bands. My favourite of all is "Playing The Fool" of Gentle Giant. Since it isn't here, I decided to choose "Yessongs" by a thin hair.
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Hercules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
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The more I listen to ELP, the less I like them. Emerson's keyboard playing just doesn't do it for me.
Yessongs is very good, though.
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But just to know that Genesis Live is an incomplete performance, missing several of the better songs from the set-list, diminishes my apreciation of it. On the Live Box-set, which is how I got their live albums, they also have a recording of a Live at the Rainbow show, which seems to be from the same tour. Unfortunatley, that show is only complete in DVD audio, and on CD it only has the songs that were missing from the Genesis Live one (unfortunatley, because I sort of liked better the performance on The Rainbow, and the pair of CDs don't flow as the show would have). About Seconds Out, as much as I want to like that one better (since I actually like Phil Collins better as a singer, and he does improve some of the songs for me), I think it suffers from the same problem of missing songs that were actually played during the tour, and unfortunatley they didn't choose many of my favourite songs, but I don't like how Hackett was mixed a bit too low on that one... and I really wish they had chosen recordings with Bill Bruford for all the album, and going just a bit further, I wish they had gotten a flute player to tour with them... perhaps even Steve's brother might have worked fine. Oh yeah, and in both albums, I wish they had played Firth of Fifth complete with the piano intro. |
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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^The decision to ditch the piano intro of Firth was a practical decision. I know Tony hated playing it on anything other than a piano, since many of the keyboards lacked weighted keys. As a keyboard player myself, I can understand this. But yeah, still, would love to have it.
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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As someone who took piano lessons for years, who's home piano has almost always been a fake weighted imitation upright keyboard, the feeling of playing on a real piano legitimately changes my confidence and how well I play, and also how much I want to play. If that had anything to do with the unfortunate snipping of that gorgeous piano intro, I totally understand.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19721 |
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Indeed, Lotus is tremendous!
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Earl of Mar ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2020 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1219 |
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Prefer the sound of WMFTTSTE. However the Yes album is still fine for all the sound problems.
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uduwudu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2603 |
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Score draw. Both could do with decent remastering which might have happened I've long since gotten confused by all this. Both killer live one stop shops for two of the most awesome bands ever.
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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They can remaster it any way they want. It's still one of the most incredible live performances I've ever listened to.
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Sacro_Porgo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2019 Location: Cygnus Status: Offline Points: 2062 |
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Probably would've considered it if I'd ever heard or heard of it. Thanks for the rec though.
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