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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

How about some Dinosaur Canterbury Rock?

The Wilde Flowers - Impotence

The Wilde Flowers never got to that stage. Big smile


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^ Nicely back on-topic again with The Wilde Flowers after that wild Stone Age excursion. Thumbs Up
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How about some Dinosaur Canterbury Rock?

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


My definition of "true dinosaur albums":

Albums by artists who had been active more than 10 years. Big smile

My definition of Dinosaur Rock...



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My definition of "true dinosaur albums":

Albums by artists who had been active more than 10 years. Big smile






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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

And besides, aren't the true prog dinosaur albums supposed to be from the classic 1970's era?
You mean the progasaurs? Are the dinosaur albums called "true prog" or "real prog"?
The original Monsters of Rock.



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

And besides, aren't the true prog dinosaur albums supposed to be from the classic 1970's era?
You mean the progasaurs? Are the dinosaur albums called "true prog" or "real prog"?

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

...true dinosaur albums (post-1979) ...

But that's only the case when talking about UK Prog, and it can be different with Prog from other countries, like Asia Minor and Bacamarte.

Well, when it comes to Asia Minor, we're talking about the Byzantine era of prog. Wink
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

...true dinosaur albums (post-1979) ...

But that's only the case when talking about UK Prog, and it can be different with Prog from other countries, like Asia Minor and Bacamarte.

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

And besides, aren't the true prog dinosaur albums supposed to be from the classic 1970's era?

No, they're the prime, classic Prog albums. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

... I just discovered today that Soft Machine have a new album out this year, so that's one to look forward to hearing later on in this blog. Smile

As you very probably already have noticed, true dinosaur albums (post-1979) are not much of my interest. Big smile
How can that be when Soft Machine's best album was released in 1981? Wink

And besides, aren't the true prog dinosaur albums supposed to be from the classic 1970's era?


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

... I just discovered today that Soft Machine have a new album out this year, so that's one to look forward to hearing later on in this blog. Smile

As you very probably already have noticed, true dinosaur albums (post-1979) are not much of my interest. Big smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ Interesting and well-written read, Paul. Thumbs Up

Now I've heard a couple of the first tracks of Mainstream, I can tell that with their raw electronics and very experimental style, they don't seem to me as typical Canterbury. I see some inspiration from Heldon and Stomu Yamash'ta, but I can't see how it could be possible to put some vocals to them - unless some very freaky type. Big smile
Something else when considering your quite positive review of this album, it's maybe again an example of that your tastes are not quite as conservative as you like to call them. Smile
Thanks. I even gave Hatfield & the North's eccentric Rotters' Club album a positive 3-star rating too, so I guess my tastes in music can't be that bad after all, and talking of experimental styles, I just discovered today that Soft Machine have a new album out this year, so that's one to look forward to hearing later on in this blog. Smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ Interesting and well-written read, Paul. Thumbs Up

Now I've heard a couple of the first tracks of Mainstream, I can tell that with their raw electronics and very experimental style, they don't seem to me as typical Canterbury. I see some inspiration from Heldon and Stomu Yamash'ta, but I can't see how it could be possible to put some vocals to them - unless some very freaky type. Big smile
Something else when considering your quite positive review of this album, it's maybe again an example of that your tastes are not quite as conservative as you like to call them. Smile


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A-Z of Canterbury Scene Music from Around the World


 3 stars 1992: Short Wave - Live - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvGzNASO8aA

 3 stars 1992: Richard Sinclair - Caravan of Dreams - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-8xeZHjl1E
 3 stars 1994: Richard Sinclair - R.S.V. P. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJs0ekgPyT8

 2 stars 1978: Soft Heap - Rogue Elephant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1colrRPsKg
 2 stars 1979: Soft Heap - Soft Heap - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_2yK0b3YDU
 2 stars 1995: Soft Heap - A Veritable Centaur - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0EywTaVx_c
 2 stars 2008: Soft Heap - Al Dente - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xx0-rh7fVc

 4 stars 1976: Karl Jenkins & Soft Machine - Rubber Riff - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuiJUCiuPd7XiZuYwdbmHsJ
 4 stars 1978: Soft Machine - Alive & Well: Recorded in Paris - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvBVfX6SzmtW0Px4YHawIVI

 3 stars 2005: Soft Machine Legacy - Live in Zandaam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_dHp8vRZxk
 3 stars 2007: Soft Machine Legacy - Steam - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG4CDHBKMYE
 3 stars 2010: Soft Machine Legacy - Live Adventures - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9K7dkECjR0
 4 stars 2013: Soft Machine Legacy - Burden of Proof - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfhPNzfb_VUlFMVF4jkD1Tj1gebWzHhyf

 2 stars 2007: Soft Mountain - Soft Mountain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYM47_QG4Y

 3 stars 2003: Soft Works - Abracadabra - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90wuHMT9DFU
 3 stars 2020: Soft Works - Abracadabra in Osaka (Part 1) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SNx_TXcDk4
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 3 stars 1985: Stubbs - The Prime Moving Lumps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luqJTY7SIzg

 3 stars 1970: Supersister - Present from Nancy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurjxwfHNu8
 3 stars 1971: Supersister - To the Highest Bidder - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5026Bj3S0
 3 stars 1972: Supersister - Pudding en Gisteren - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwzcBzD-SsM
 3 stars 1973: Supersister - Iskander - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94yD3bq_ioU

 4 stars 1976: Supply Demand & Curve - Supply Demand & Curve - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1EX_7o7TWk


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^ Interesting and well-written read, Paul. Thumbs Up
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QUIET SUN were a short-lived, British Jazz-Rock combo. Their line-up included Phil Manzanera (of Roxy Music fame) on guitar. Their one and only album "Mainstream" (1975) has been described as Canterbury Scene music, although none of the London- based band members are actually from the city of Canterbury. After all, Canterbury Scene is more of a musical description than a geographical location. Although Quiet Sun split up in 1972, Phil Manzanera got the band together again in 1975 for a one-off studio session and this album was the result. Renowned record producer and former member of Roxy Music, Brian Eno, participated in the making of the album, although he wasn't credited as the album's producer. The 2011 CD reissue of "Mainstream" included five bonus tracks added to the original seven mostly instrumental pieces on the album. So, what can we expect from Quiet Sun's "Mainstream" album? One suspects that the band were being a little bit ironic with the "Mainstream" choice of album title. Is it going to be mainstream music or something a little more offbeat? Well, let's find out.

It's sunny side up for the 7-minute-long opening number "Sol Caliente" (Spanish for "Hot Sun"), a warm and inviting sunburst of fuzzy guitar-driven, psychedelic Jazz-Rock. This long uptempo instrumental piece really gives the musicians a chance to shine in a psychedelic jazz guitar freak out, with a nifty keyboard player in his element and with the drummer pounding away on his kit with frenetic energy as if his life depends on it. It's not exactly a toe-tapper, because your feet could hardly keep up with the frantic pace of this upbeat and offbeat piece of music with its unusually complex time signature, so just lie back and enjoy it. There's more funky fusion on the way with "Trumpets with Motherhood". It's anybody's guess what this bizarrely- titled piece of music is all about, because it's another instrumental number. You might at least be expecting to hear some trumpets though in a piece of music titled "Trumpets with Motherhood", but no, there's not a toot of a brass trumpet horn to be heard anywhere, because this is another uptempo fuzzy guitar and electric piano combination. It's less than two minutes long though so there's barely time to nip out the room and make a cup of tea, so you may as well stick around for the next number, "Bargain Classics". You're unlikely to find this rare album in the bargain classics section of your local store though, as it's a pretty hard album to get hold of these days. So, what does the music sound like you may well ask. Well, it's a very offbeat and "off-piste" piece of music in a highly irregular time signature, which is intricately complex and fascinating to put it kindly, but which is all over the place, to put it unkindly. It all depends on your point of view: if you're an aficianado of Jazz Fusion, then you may go into rhapsodies of delight upon hearing this musical mayhem, but on the other hand, if Jazz-Fusion is not your thing, then you may want to skip to the next piece of music, which is "R.F.D.". The meaning of the initials "R,F.D." are shrouded in mystery, but this is a pleasantly soothing, laid-back mellow number to close out Side One, so lie back, relax, and let the music play as the cares of the day drift away, because this gorgeous piece of music is like a bright ray of sunshine on a hot sandy beach.

Side Two opens with one of the most bizarrely-titled pieces of music of all time: "Mummy was an Asteroid, Daddy was a Small Non-Stick Kitchen Utensil". It's just as well it's an instrumental piece, because if this song had lyrics, they'd probably make no sense at all, although that's never been a problem in the wierd and wonderful world of prog, where just about anything goes when it comes to song lyrics. Anyway, back to the music we have here, and it's another intense and fast-paced Jazz-Fusion freak out, which is *almost* as freaky as the track title implies, but don't let that put you off, because the music is very impressive. It's also pretty wild and "finger-licking" good, so be prepared to hear some fast and furious acid guitar riffs. We're off at a "Trot" for Song No. 6 now, a 5-minute-long piece of uptempo Jazz-Fusion which gallops along nicely to bring us to the closing piece of music on the album, "Rongwrong". It's another bizarre track title in an album full of peculiar and offbeat track titles, and at times, peculiar and offbeat music to match. "Rongwrong" is the longest song on the album at nearly 10 minutes in duration. It's also the first real song on the album, as it actually includes lyrics for the first time. If you think the song title is bizarre though, take a look at these off-the-wall lyrics:- "I'm looking in my little black book, to see if I was right or rongwrong, within the confines of whoremonger logic, to even try to sing this song. I could have asked the I Ching, but that would have taken up too much time, And with the time before fall, I didn't see there was no time to lose, If things got bad it could always turn into a blues, Like they do back home on the Delta ? grunt and groan." ..... Confused? You will be! Never mind the lyrics though, what about the music? It's joyful, uplifting and exuberant, but also quite offbeat, which is just what we've come to expect by now from an album that is a little bit off the beaten track.

This Canterbury Scene album of Jazz-Rock/Fusion is certainly not "Mainstream" and it may not be to everyone's taste, but it is pretty good and definitely worth a listen. One can't help feeling though, that the album could have been better if most of the tracks had included vocals instead of just the final song on the album. It certainly would have made the music more memorable if most of the tracks had included lyrics. That said, if you're heavily into Jazz-Fusion, then this rare long-lost album might be right up your street.

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QUANTUM JUMP       Hi-ho silver away! Who is that masked man I hear you cry? Why, it's none other than The Lone Ranger, a Top 5 hit single from Quantum Jump, who are arguably the best-known Canterbury Scene band in the world, purely on the strength of that one unforgettable song with its indecipherable opening, and no, its not a place in Wales.  If you've never heard either of Quantum Jump's two jazzy Canterbury Scene albums before, then you're in for quite a surprise. Their albums are a quantum leap away from that legendary masked lawman.  Smile



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^Pip is one of my favorite drummers. I miss him.

He has three solo and two live albums. Three stars seems like a fair rating.

That's good to know. I thought I may have underrated them again, just like many other Canterbury Scene albums I've listened to. Wink
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