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Updated track listing and releases information for "Wishmaster" by Nightwish.

1. She Is My Sin (4:46)
2. The Kinslayer (3:59)
3. Come Cover Me (4:34)
4. Wanderlust (4:50)
5. Two For Tragedy (3:51)
6. Wishmaster (4:23)
7. Bare Grace Misery (3:39)
8. Crownless (4:26)
9. Deep Silent Complete (3:57)
10. Dead Boy's Poem (6:47)
11. FantasMic (8:18)
- Part 1
- Part 2
- Part 3

Total Time 53:32

2000 CD Japanese Bonus Track:
12. Sleepwalker - Heavy Mix (2:56)

2007 CD Reissue Bonus Tracks:
12. Sleepwalker (Original Version) (2:57)
13. Wanderlust (Live) (4:33) *
14. Deep Silent Complete (Live) (4:20) *

* Live at Pakkahuone

Releases Information:
Released 8 May 2000
Recorded January–March 2000

CD Toy's Factory - TFCK-87216 (2000, Japan) [bonus track]
CD Spinefarm Records U.K. / Universal Music Group International - 0602517449350 (2007, Collector's Edition, Europe) [3 bonus tracks]


Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6861
Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/427098-Nightwish-Wishmaster
Discogs (Japanese) - https://www.discogs.com/release/1096917-Nightwish-Wishmaster
Discogs (2007 Reissue) - https://www.discogs.com/release/3979538-Nightwish-Wishmaster

- E&O Team: Thanks, done.


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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86240

CD1:
1. Skywaving (1:57)
2. Life in the Wires, Part 1 (5:30)
3. This House of Winter (6:10)
4. The Solid State Orchestra (6:35)
5. Evaporator (8:09)
6. Strange World (5:09)
7. Idiot Box (4:59)
8. Absent Friends (3:58)

CD2:
1. School (Introducing the All Seeing Eye) (3:12)
2. Propergander (5:34)
3. Sign of Life (5:44)
4. Moral and Consequence (8:13)
5. Life in the Wires, Part 2 (15:51)
6. Starting Fires (4:40)

Total Time 85:41

- E&O Team: Thanks, Mayer, done.


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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21275

5. Knowing all I do is worth nothing (8:39)

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^ A tough call lol!
All these sites are saying it's 'ending', as we already have:

I have absolutely no idea which one actually is correct, but Spotify also lists it as 'nothing', so that is probably the one most likely to be correct.
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I have just listened to the song, and he clearly sings 'nothing'
(no pun!!!)

I have checked now with a friend who owns the album. She says the titles are exactly as in 

Which means, that there are more errors.


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It's a right mess isn't it lol!

I think were fairly safe to go with what Discogs has, since this is what's actually shown on the CD cover image:

1. Song For My Son (8:27)
2. The Fight Is Over (7:53)
3. Hey Man (9:58)
4. Waking Up (7:16)
5. Knowing All I Do Is Worth Nothing (8:44)
6. You (6:35)
7. Where Do We Go Now (9:52)
8. Dark (3:17)

Spotify and Amazon agree with that (apart from the odd second here and there with the timings) - other than for track 7, with both of them saying it's 'Where Do I go Now' to rather than 'Where Do We Go Now', but I played the track, and the guy definitely sings 'Where Do We Go Now', so I've changed it to that.
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^ That album was added by psarros, who used to be a collaborator on here (not seen him for more than 9 years now). I edited it using the admin panel, but that method doesn't seem to record who carried out the update (if I enter my name at the bottom and save the changes, the page then says that it was me that actually added the album Confused). I found a couple more that he added which need a bit of a tweak to get them looking just right. I'll edit them tomorrow using the normal 'edit this entry' button if they're still not fixed when I return here in the morning - just to see what happens using that method - but If you guys want to attend to them beforehand then please go ahead.


Edit: Both these albums have now been edited using the admin panel.


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^ No, using the 'Edit this entry' button doesn't work for me. The form opens up, I can make all the necessary changes, and when I submit the changes I get a message back saying the information was sent successfully, but when I check to see that everything has been reproduced correctly, all the album details remain just as they were before. No changes have actually been made. Confused Tried a couple of times, and the same thing happened on both occasions. Any idea why I can edit an album by using the admin panel (though I can't get that method to show at the bottom that an update has been carried out), but apparently not using by the 'Edit this entry' button?
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86292

- Sylvain Descôteaux / vocals, keyboards
- Michel St-Père / guitars
- Johnny Maz / keyboards
- Michel Joncas / bass, Taurus bass pedals
- Martin Plante / drums, percussion
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^ Thanks, Mayer, done.
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I enter my name at the bottom and save the changes, the page then says that it was me that actually added the album Confused). 

David, if you add a comma and your nick after the last contributor, you'll get correct results.
For example in case of this particular album I typed in the field UPDATED BY:
psarros, yam yam
and saved changes.

The result on the album page is:
Thanks to psarros for the addition
and to yam yam for the last updates




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^ Thank you very much indeed for that, Eugene! Smile I'll attend to the other two albums that psarros didn't make a brilliant job of now, using the admin panel. I still don't understand why the 'Edit this entry' button on the album page itself didn't make the necessary changes for me though, when the process seemed to have gone through perfectly well both times that I tried it earlier today, with no error messages returned.
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^ David, I have no idea too why 'Edit this entry' doesn't work properly for you.
And I rarely use it for 2 reasons:
- after editing from the album page special characters turn to ?? (an old, I would say even ancient bug);
- using it, it's impossible to get things like 
Thanks to ............ for the addition
and to mbzr48 & NotAProghead for the last updates (i.e. credit not only me, but a person who offered the latest updates).




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^ Thanks again for this, Eugene. I won't bother trying to use that 'Edit this entry' button again now that I know that you guys in E&O don't use it anyway. As a newbie to all this, I wasn't sure which of the two methods available for updating albums was usually used. The admin panel has worked just fine for me since you told me how to get the latest update to be displayed correctly. Any necessary (and straightforward) album updates that I discover, such as missing track times, I can just deal with myself now without needing to add them to your E&O workload in this thread.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Thanks Mayer, almost done.

I'm not sure what to do with these:

Who is Alppien Antura? Confused
Alright. Got a reply from Psychedelic Suns on FB. That should clarify it. I'd suggest changing all the instances of the artist's real name to the pseudonym.

Thanks a lot, done !


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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I can just deal with myself now without needing to add them to your E&O workload in this thread.

Well. Perhaps it would be helpful to let you know a "special feature" Angry of admin panel in case of albums with special characters.
For example, you need to edit something, no matter what, on this page.
You open the album in the admin panel and see that special characters turn to nightmare:

Artwork:  G�ran Stenberg with Anders Johansson (design)

1. Jordr�k (Earth Smoke) (11:10)
2. Vandringar I Vilsenhet (Wanderings in Confusion) (11:53)
3. Ifr�n Klarhet Till Klarhet (From Clarity to Clarity) (8:04)
4. Kung Bore (King Winter) (12:57)

Total Time 44:04

Bonus track on all reissues:
5. G�ngl�t Fr�n Knapptibble (Marching Tune from Knapptibble) (7:19)

- Johan H�gberg /  bass, bass pedals, Mellotron (effects)
- Mattias Olsson / drums, concert bass drum, tambourine, vibraslap, po-chung, gong, glockenspiel, tubular bells, bongos, Tibetan finger cymbals, wind chimes, a-gogo, cabasa, African drums, effect-flute, varied bells and percussions

With:
- P�r Lindh / performer (unconfirmed)

Even if you changed nothing but clicked Save the album page will be spoiled with this abracadabra.

To prevent this, it's necessary to copy somewhere (from the opened album page, for instance) and paste correct text and only then save changes. 




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^ Thanks again Eugene. I had already guessed that this would be the case when I used the admin panel to edit the Whitechapel 'Masque d'Arlequin' album that psarros had previously added. As you say, all the letters with diacritics had been replaced by the same piece of gibberish � when the album was opened in the panel, so I made sure I replaced this nonsense with the original text before I saved the album again.

Same situation occurs with biographies that I've written containing diacritics when new artists are added to the site, and the person adding the artist doesn't always notice what has happened. I have to then ask them to go back and edit the bio so that the proper characters are shown there.
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^ David, I would add that something similar (but not so regularly) happen when someone edits his/her own reviews.

Conclusion: if you've changed something on PA, check how it looks after updating.

Unfortunately, as I see it here and there, even collabs often don't bother to see what they're doing. Smile
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^ or... you can ask me. Wink

My script is pretty much bug-proof. I can edit any album page in just a few seconds, without any glitches.


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