Jobson on Yes

Not a jab at all:

Would you have wanted Eddie Jobson in Yes? If so, why?

I've never liked that period of Yes anyway but maybe Eddie could have made it something interesting perhaps. Moraz was dumped out the band 8 years earlier so that should have already been a 'red flag' as he puts it so getting involved was risky. Even Wakeman had to seemingly fight for his place in the band.

The violin does nothing for that particular song posted and I think it simply doesn’t fit anywhere as far as YES is concerned.   The little solo piece is great but not the YES sound IMO

I don't mind if violins don't play
I won't listen to them anyway

Jeff Lynne

richardh wrote: I would rather listen to his beautiful masterpeice of instrumental music Theme Of Secrets than literally anything Yes produced after Drama.

I own many releases by Private Music. Theme of Secrets is near the top (pity that the follow-up he completed, titled Darkness, remains fully in limbo).

A video was produced for "Memories of Vienna." A comment was left by none other than G.E. Stinson of Shadowfax.

Heart of the Matter wrote: I don't mind if violins don't play I won't listen to them anyway Jeff Lynne

Hi,

He never needed them ... he used the keyboards for that! I'm not sure it made ELO better, but it certainly got better known.

Heart of the Matter wrote: moshkito wrote: Heart of the Matter wrote: I don't mind if violins don't play I won't listen to them anyway Jeff Lynne Hi, He never needed them ... he used the keyboards for that! I'm not sure it made ELO better, but it certainly got better known. Maybe I'm wrong, but I was reading an ironic tone in those words, something like the view of somebody who is in refusal (God knows why) to listen and enjoy violins, cellos, any addition to the regular rock band. Nothing wrong with Yes as it was, but the Jobson incident makes me think how it WOULD be, if his tenure had continued, and violin had enriched their sound. Would have been something to hear, I think. My point is 100% counterfactual, of course.

Hi,

Not really ... it's no big deal, or a secret that for more than 40 years a keyboard has replaced an orchestra, and bands like ELO kinda helped that idea, though I'm not sure it was meant to do that at all ... and in general, I like Roy Wood's stuff a heck of a lit more than ELO ... it has more soul and believability behind it than the MOR stuff that ELO went on to do so it could be played on the American radio, even after the FM station Rape in America.

I have no issues with different things, and a violin, while special in many ways is a wonderful thing to have, although I think that too many rock folks (specially progrock!) don't usually like to get away from the generic format of guitar, bass, keyboards and cheap drummer!

Another cheap example, is how RW used one other "analog" instrument to play what would, otherwise, be a violin part. He knew he was doing that, but we fans just kept thinking he was a keyboard genius ... not really ... he was making sure he could replace an orchestra in its entirety! But, really, it was a lot more fun to watch the guys go crazy in Roll Over Beethoven ... than it was to watch their hit songs yet again, and fall asleep!! The funny part is that Jeff Lynne won't release those live performances, because it makes him look weak and not a very good player in the whole thing. And as we saw it later, he was probably a better arranger than he was a musician in my book!

One thing though ... ELO's tours should have cost a lot less, other than their high price, since there were a lot less folks with them on a tour! That is (normally) more of a fact of life than it is otherwise, unless your name is ELP and you have no problem squandering several millions you have earned! At least it was for a wonderful concept and idea!

Just for giggles, my number one violin player is Chris Karrer of Amon Duul 2. And he used to love doing duets with the guitarist John Weinzierl.

And for the record, I loved DEARLY the East Meets West with Yehudi Menuhin and Ravi Shankar, which I saw in Chicago on my Senior Year in school on a trip to the Chicago Art Institute and also to see a Matinee of Man of La Mancha with Richard Kiley. So ... violins, for me, are wonderful and not just another instrument ... I simply wish that the PA folks treated it better and with more appreciation than just an electric guitar.

Edited by moshkito - 10 hours 7 minutes ago at 09:35

Yes was always waving "red flags," just ask Peter Banks!