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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15963 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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I won't say, it's fair to start a thread with a certain OP and then give it a completely unexpected turn according to the OP. This pissed me off extraordinarily here, as I wouldn't post in this thread at all if I expected all the mega listing. Edited by David_D - July 25 2025 at 21:32 |
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I was being generous with my 3-star ratings for Gentle Giant, considering they're unlikely to make my own personal Top 100 Prog Bands list, although I have to admit, no prog list would be complete without Gentle Giant. For some reason, I suddenly have an urge to open a tin of sweetcorn. ![]() |
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No, I'm only planning to listen to and rate Henry Cow's first album - the same as I did with Echolyn, The Flower Kings and Grobschnitt - but don't hold your breath waiting for a good review. ![]() |
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Can't wait for your Henry Cow review. You going to listen to all the albums completely?
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I can honestly say I've listened to nearly every album in full that I've rated here so far - which makes a nice change - and the album listings will come in handy for a suggested future series of Ultimate Prog Rock Top 50 polls, divided into five parts with ten albums per poll. I'm just trying to do my bit to keep PA's forums alive and kicking. ![]() Edited by Psychedelic Paul - July 25 2025 at 11:48 |
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22. GRYPHON Gryphon are a London-based Prog-Folk band who are best-known for their unique blend of medieval and Renaissance Folk music, combining classical themes and proggy elements. They released five albums during the Progressive Rock decade of the 1970's:- "Gryphon" (1973); "Midnight Mushrumps" (1974); "Red Queen to Gryphon Three" (1974); "Raindance" (1975); & "Treason" (1977). The band reached something of a stalemate in the 1970's because they were never quite able to achieve commercial success, but they're now experiencing a well-deserved revival, thanks to the arrival of the Internet. Buoyed up by the renewed interest in the band, Gryphon released the aptly-titled comeback album "Reinvention" in 2018, their first album in over forty years.The chess-themed album we have here, "Red Queen to Gryphon Three", with its distinctive album cover, is probably the best-known of Gryphon's six albums. There are four movements in this instrumental Prog-Folk concept album based on the game of chess, so let's make the "Opening Move" now with the 10-minute-long opening piece of music.
Thrusting a pawn forward to the centre of the board with the bold "Opening Move", you could be forgiven for thinking this is YES when you hear the dynamic opening chord sequence. This is an energetic and adventurous keyboard piece which also features a bassoon. Imagine the grand symphonic sound of YES with a bassoon player included and that's the powerful piece of music you have here. There's also a gentle flutey middle passage to give the music a medieval banquet atmosphere, although this impression doesn't last for long, as the music slowly builds up into a crashing crescendo of sound for the dramatic finish when the slightly discordant chords reminds one of some of Van Der Graaf Generator's more experimental works. It's a powerful "Opening Move" to this musical game of chess with a striking "pawn storm" of sound in the centre of the board, designed to grab the listener's attention right from the outset. Onto the second movement now with "Second Spasm", which opens in traditional medieval feast style with the sound of a crumhorn. You can almost picture Robin Hood and his Merry Men dining with Maid Marion at an exotic banquet with a lavishly-laid-out table. There's no time to dine on a feast though, as we're in full proggy mode just one minute into this 9-minute-long piece, when there's an outbreak of dynamic (and very modern) keyboards to spoil the medieval party atmosphere. The music returns briefly to the flutey medieval theme of a banquet hall, and then we hear the sound of a slow marching rhythm in which gallant knights might have marched into battle in old days of yore. The finale transforms into a powerful quick-march, which brings to mind intrepid medieval knights jostling and jousting on the battlefield to save a beautiful fair maiden's honour in time-honoured tradition. Side Two opens with the third movement: "Lament". It's an 8-minute-long, three-piece-suite, opening to the harmonious sound of a bassoon and the crumhorn floating along on a gently melodic wave of sound. The acoustic guitar and rhythm section reminds one of the Prog-Rock band Renaissance, which seems somehow appropriate, as Gryphon's unique blend of musical styles is loosely based on the Renaissance music of the Middle Ages. In fact, this music wouldn't have seemed too out of place if it HAD been played in Henry VIII's time, although there would have been no power source to plug the modern electronic keyboard into. Putting that minor detail aside though, the middle section of the suite is a really laid-back mellow groove, but try not to get too laid-back as there's an uplifting and unrestrained grand finale to this Renaissance-style (in both senses) musical extravaganza. This is the kind of flutey folky Renaissance music you could picture yourself listening to at a medieval banquet attended by gallant knights and lusty wenches dining on a suckling pig, whilst being entertained by jolly jugglers and merry magicians, although you're more likely to hear this music played now at a 21st century medieval banquet revival night. It's "Checkmate" now for the fourth and final movement on our chess-themed Prog-Folk album. This medieval style Prog-Folk instrumental will transport you back in time to the Renaissance court of Henry VIII where gay (in the old sense of the word) wandering minstrels and court jesters entertained the King. The music might have the fluty sound of Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull, but it's actually the antiquated crumhorn and a recorder that gives the music a Renaissance feel to it. In modern times in England, this is the kind of jolly Folk music that Morris dancers might prance around to, looking slightly ludicrous wearing bell pads on their shins and waving sticks and handkerchiefs in the air, although to be honest, most sensible people in England would go out of their way to avoid Morris dancers. Anyway, back to the music at hand. The music's not TOO folky, because there's enough prog elements included here to keep the prog-heads entertained, including staccato stop-start changes of tempo and an outbreak of Rick Wakeman-style keyboard virtuosity for the sonorous grand finale to this 10-minute Prog-Folk epic. If you're in the mood for some proggy Folk which conjures up images of gallant knights rescuing fair maidens in distress, then this might be just the album for you. Some of the music on this unique album might sound folky and medieval, but it's given a proggy 20th century upheaval. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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21. GROBSCHNITT The German word for rough cut tobacco. Grobschnitt may be virtually unknown outside of the progosphere and outside of their native Germany, but they're one of the most revered Symphonic Prog bands amongst their many fans, so for any naysayers, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
![]() ![]() 1974: Grobschnitt - Ballermann - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRT7N6iPo2rZ2WbxJ7dnZrNaK9DvUa-Gs 1975: Grobschnitt - Jumbo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBR8r4eNoFeGeXUh4Ly0HbfGu8te6L1dA 1977: Grobschnitt - Rockpommel's Land - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mEhXgB0q9iuQwEE3VEvIKuAtNDNot2yK8 1978: Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n6QBhdvWu2BeIxoByHewJbM_wmG5TPPMM 1979: Grobschnitt - Merry-Go-Round - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_njpEMxqDQPseMwKAnn3tecvNZ3BFP9gEU 1980: Grobschnitt - Volle Molle - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lacLTB0MCj9IyMa78iLrYZ-9gLelSkb08 1981: Grobschnitt - Illegal - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lhRhrTBzzHKoJLT32Y0jFyCX5-wF7eZQE 1982: Grobschnitt - Razzia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kccwuFBpoHPKBGkGSiz2ydQyvnh8ezX7w 1984: Grobschnitt - Kinder + Narren - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nd0PMm3s9UF-ftbaE1cntuJcJXhyy7az8 1985: Grobschnitt - Sonnentanz Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_klbrIzd2dFxJBBR_py_6s7Eo-o_YNOQwU 1987: Grobschnitt - Fantasten - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQxyq247Z-dUJslHRgsNvU-00_-hCHQv4 2022: Grobschnitt - Acoustic Album - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lQ1Fq-RjO04pmv78IGJborfT6I2T1vUt8 |
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Well Paul you very effectively killed this thread.
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20. GONG Gazeuse! Unravelling Gong's complicated discography of 57 varieties of album turned out to be almost as tricky as walking the high-wire at a Continental Circus. Gong have been in existence for over half a century now, so I thought it About Time we paid Tribute to a great band and Rejoiced together in their wonderful music. Gong breezed in like a Shamal wind with their debut album Magick Brother in 1970, but their real Breakthrough came three years later with the acclaimed Radio Gnome Invisible Trilogy. Gong began as a band led by Aussie Daevid Allen, but they then had a Second Wind in the mid-1970's when Pierre Moerlen branched off to form his own jazzy version of Gong. A later third version of the band - known as Mother Gong - emerged in the late-70's, led by Wild Child Gilli Smyth. I don't want to create A Storm in a Teapot, but personally speaking, I wouldn't give a Flying Teapot for any of Mother Gong's albums, although I realise they have a strong following here at PA. Anyway, to cut a long story short, my favourite Gong album by far is Downwind - a precious album to treasure like an Angel's Egg, but I'll Leave It Open for You to decide which is your favourite Gong album.
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19. GENTLE GIANT A prog band who emerged from the late-1960's outfit Simon Dupree and the Big Sound (although none of the band members were actually named Simon Dupree). Gentle Giant's 5-piece line-up consisted primarily of Derek and Ray Shulman, Gary Green, Kerry Minnear and John Weathers. Gentle Giant are known for their complex and sophisticated (read: uncommercial and unpopular) music, which was often challenging and unfathomable to listen to even by Progressive Rock standards, so, if you have a taste for complicated contrapuntal arrangements, dissonant instrumental voicings, complex vocal arrangements as well as unusual medieval instruments, than this is the band for you! As for me, I'm still Acquiring the Taste.
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18. GENESIS In the Beginning there were five members of Charterhouse School who One Day decided to form a band. That band was GENESIS. They were Looking for Someone to promote and produce their first album when a Window of opportunity came along in the shape of Jonathan King, a Duke of record producers working Behind the Lines at the time. The album "From Genesis to Revelation" entered a Land of Confusion and Misunderstanding though when many record stores placed the album in their religious music sections due to the religious-sounding title. The album and first single "Silent Sun" both flopped, and barely caused any Ripples in the music press either, despite Jonathan King Calling All Stations to try and promote the album and single on the radio. GENESIS' second single "A Winter's Tale" was also met with about as much indifference as A Fly on a Windshield by radio stations and barely No Reply at All from the music press. Their record company Decca became Entangled in a dispute when it was discovered there was another band in America called GENESIS, but by A Trick of the Tail, the band managed to keep their name Anyway by changing their name to "Revelation" in the United States.
The music business has always been as fickle as a Harlequin, where The Dividing Line between success and failure depends on a combination of good luck and hard work. Every new band is sailing through Uncertain Weather where they can easily be dragged down by the Undertow and Shipwrecked by having The Knife stuck into them by their record company or by the music press. That's All it takes to finish a band's career. There's Never a Time when it's been easy to make it in the tough music business, but Like It or Not, that's just the Way of the World. No astrological Watcher of the Skies can predict who's going to make it in today's cynical music industry, where the chances of success are about as hard as climbing a White Mountain of snow before the Fading Lights of Dusk close in. After the Ordeal of seeing the commercial failure of their first album, GENESIS were In Limbo and left out In the Wilderness during a short period of Stagnation when the band members returned to their studies at Charterhouse. They weren't Down and Out or Taking It All Too Hard though, because making great music was far more than Just a Job to Do for the five talented band members. Contrary to being In Hiding, GENESIS were just Counting Out Time in The Waiting Room of The Cinema Show of life before returning to the recording studio. The band members were confident of The Musical Box of talent they had between them and their Horizons were positively bright with the general feeling that It's Gonna Get Better soon. GENESIS were working to a Time Table and they didn't plan on Living Forever on borrowed time, or waiting around each day until Supper's Ready. They were In Too Deep to consider Throwing It All Away at this late stage. The band were more than ready to Turn It On Again with an Invisible Touch of magic with the release of their next album, "Trespass". It would be several albums later though before GENESIS were basking in the warm Afterglow of a successful album release, followed by the Domino effect of success breeding further success in the proverbial Aisle of Plenty. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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17. PETER GABRIEL Proving that you don't need a sledgehammer to break a nut, but you do need a Sledgehammer to make one of the greatest pop videos of all time. At Face Value, Peter Gabriel is a better singer than Phil Collins, and while Phil was busy singing Sussudio, Peter Gabriel was in the studio carving out a successful career as a solo artist, unlike his early years of financial hardship with Genesis, which is surely Against All Odds. Peter Gabriel is one of only three solo artists (alongside Mike Oldfield & Rick Wakeman) who's earned a well-deserved place in the Ultimate Prog Rock Top 50 on his own merit.
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16. FOCUS Time now to Focus attention on the combined talents of Jan Akkerman & Thijs van Leer as we set sail on the Ship of Memories for a voyage of discovery across the Moving Waves of Dutch Prog where, just Beyond the Horizon, you'll hopefully discover some magnificent Golden Oldies along the way. Yes, it's none other than the mother of all Dutch prog bands, or simply just, Mother Focus. Altogether now, "Joladadijoladadi-jo-o-ooh."
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15. THE FLOWER KINGS A Swedish Progressive Rock band who began life as a backing group for Roine Stolt's solo "Flower King" album, but then blossomed into a fully-fledged band in their own right. The Flower Kings have more roots, offshoots and branches than a herbaceous border full of rhododendron bushes, including Roine Stolt's and Tomas Bodin's many solo works, and associated groups:- Agents of Mercy; Hasse Froberg & Musical Companion; Kaipa; Karmakanic; Midnight Sun; Moon Safari; Spellbound; Spin Gallery; The Tangent; Time Requiem; Transatlantic, and many other one-album band projects too numerous to mention. The list goes on...
![]() ![]() 1996: The Flower Kings - Retropolis - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBM6TW9CSR0Bn2EsTDAZtPZNO9yhjeqqk 1997: The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kHFsrmEPe8UhjTe-HcpcxpgDli3fVWPYA 1999: The Flower Kings - Flower Power - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGMGEHkdapCuwM7s0ieLHlErObP0C4BGI 2000: The Flower Kings - Space Revolver - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9Mc_AyTj5aztJXBI2qkZsKWjPy07uEXg 2000: The Flower Kings - Alive on Planet Earth - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7EgvGGo6fmxf2IX98hXZLY639JTe3TJE 2001: The Flower Kings - The Rainmaker - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lR71rweKIeh1dcudXuI8HrdDfC8rT2Sss 2002: The Flower Kings - Unfold the Future - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l_F1nV5tZIHK99-bRntIx3tkItL_-_bJU 2003: The Flower Kings - Meet the Flower Kings - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZqSH0k03L8KHop19v44Z2EnCEhEYZ0nw 2004: The Flower Kings - Adam & Eve - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmOyeABxzdc3I9dZswsbqKBHfbK2yzVBM 2006: The Flower Kings - Paradox Hotel - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mJ8YctjVkpBcyak1ICqyDTtcTQfB3hHy0 2006: The Flower Kings - Instant DeLIVEry - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZqSH0k03L8JP1ISOzTjwo7852IW-FCje 2007: The Flower Kings - The Sum of No Evil - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kaiMBlb7axMn5LcqIsQXBpO9NfZn7A1kA 2011: The Flower Kings - Tour Kaputt - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mrXexBSDse3Ske3TqpwNuSD1arrlD4Gkk 2012: The Flower Kings - Banks of Eden - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwUDnMAuYfU-u4m6MwXckZKrbmtlqAWFw 2013: The Flower Kings - Desolation Rose - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mzBCISM_Q2YFiMjoAxAX47EAeSsoRD1OI 2019: The Flower Kings - Waiting for Miracles - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mgYSRH-3c2N6e3EBfScV4Gg95MZgtPFA8 2020: The Flower Kings - Islands - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8Naql2akXR4jx6bi-Yl0mN5aZ4etTlKg 2022: The Flower Kings - By Royal Decree - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mGAdn8j1Yelckz012RRqax9lRuy9uEMfU 2023: The Flower Kings - Look at You Now - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mheMaTzGmlh7ZJRTxBC2RzoeDmEHRZIwY 2024: The Flower Kings - Live in Europe 2023 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mLrk5Qaicv06EbJH1fSbTh6mhZC8MDxzE |
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14. THE ENID A mysterious Symphonic Prog band unknown to most people outside of the progosphere, The Enid are primarily a trio led by Robert John Godfrey on keyboards with Francis Lickerrish (1976-1980) and Stephen Stewart bringing up the rear on guitars. It's unlikely you'll find any of The Enid's albums in your local record store though, but you'll find them In the Region of the Summer Stars, and thankfully, you can hear all of their albums much closer to home on YouTube. Anyway, enough of this Aerie Faerie Nonsense and on with the music!
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