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    Posted: March 09 2016 at 08:20

Spring training games have begun and still no MLB thread?  Whaddya say boys and girls, let's talk baseball.  My 2016 projections (mind you, last year I chose Cleveland, Seattle, Boston and the Tigers in the AL and Washington, St Louis, LA and San Diego in the NL.....would've lost the house!).

 
AL - Boston runs away in the East; Toronto as the WC
       KC in the Central and Houston in the West
 
NL - The Mets in the East; Wash as WC
        The Cubs in the Central and LA in the West
 
Boston comes out of the AL and the Cubs in the NL.....a World Series that would've delighted fans prior to the Sox breaking their losing streak in 2004. 
 
Pretty tame picks, but after last year.....what do proggy MLB fans think?
       
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2016 at 08:31
My money is on the Tigers winning it all.  I have to think that, otherwise having season tickets would make even less sense. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2016 at 09:34
The Tigers window is closing fast, if it hasn't already closed.  The odds on VMart, Miggy, Kinsler, and V'lander staying healthy are slim.  I also think Upton and Casty are in over their heads and bound for (more) regression.  The staff is shaky beyond #2 - and counting on V'lander returning to his ace days is an ever shakier bet.  And while the pen has improved, counting on FRod to save will give Tigers fans nightmares all year long.....FRodney redux.
Detroit had one of the best teams in the league from 2010 to 2013, but that weak bullpen sunk them.....now it's age and questions at 3B, CF....and a weak bench with not much in the farm system....yikes.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2016 at 13:24
Not to disparage the Tigers too much - I've been a Red Sox fan since the day I was born.....on the first day of the Sox-Cards World Series in 1967 - my old man was absent for my birth 'cause he was across the street at a local pub watching the game.  The Sox may have won a few titles in the 2000s, but they've also spent a ton of money on a cellar dweller for the past two years.....and their signing have been questionable at best.  C'mon, Hanley AND Panda?  One or the other but not both.....both are best suited as 3B or DH.....why hire players with the same skill set when so many more holes needed to be filled?  Ahhhh, to be a Sox fan.....well, at least I ain't a Tigers (or Lions!) fan. 
 
And that homer Papi hit when Tori went head over heels and the Boston rent-a-cop cheered wildly was the straw that broke the Tigers back.....it was their best opportunity to win a series with this incarnation of the team (why even pitch to Papi?  That must gnaw at Tigers fans to this day).  Maybe it was their best shot for the next couple of years as well.....they're a built-to-win-now sort of team. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2016 at 13:54
It really is about staying healthy.  IF the Tigers big guys can stay healthy, they can compete with any team in the league.  VMart being hurt last year was quite frankly the difference between a 1st and a last place finish, as far as I am concerned.  The prior year, he seemed to come through every time he came up with men in scoring position.  Last year, he had all he could do to make contact with the ball, and most of the time when he did he was an easy out.  So far, he seems to have his leg strength back and is stroking the ball.  If that can continue, the Tigers are going to be an offensive force.      They are built to win now and that is why all I can do is hope that they will.  The pitching may be vastly improved this year....but that remains to be seen. 

That series with Boston was entirely about Boston having a great bullpen and the Tigers' not.  Same thing the following season against Baltimore.  They Tigers have 3 or 4 new arms in the bullpen this year, including FRod.  I don't really know what to expect from those guys either.  They seem to hope that the bullpen has been fixed...but only time will tell. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2016 at 18:03
taking my paycheck and going to Vegas to wager it on the Cubs not even making the playoffs...

ask the Nats how high expectations and being the media darling worked out for them last year.

On that note...  now that the pressure and spotlight are off them. Nationals win the division and the WS.  Same team pretty much that everyone thought might win 130 games.  How likely is it that everyone BUT Bryce has a career worst year two years in a row.

book it.. Nationals win the WS. My O's..  is Angelos dead yet... the only hope for my beloved Orioles. Cry


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2016 at 07:02
Been betting baseball for years, now.  Depending on my economics, sometimes small ($2-5/game) and at others time 'large' ($50-200/game).  On-line sportsbooks since early 2001 (use Pinnacle, if you must;  definitely the best lines for mlb...don't think they take Americans, for some reason).
 
I'm a big Jays fan, and totally enjoyed last year's run and yesterday's season opener.
 
The betting takes too much serious analysis.  The KISS rule betting baseball may be fun but it's not very profitable.  The entertainment value is gone for me--for the betting--and I'm going to try and go this whole season just enjoying being a fan;  I notice it is a completely different experience between the handicapping approach and the simple fandom approach...really noticed it last season as the Jays made their run (I think it was close to the all-star break when I last had funds in the Pinnacle account).  Different experience for following my teams and the rest of the league.  Very strange contrast, actually.
 
I could elaborate but I don't know if that's interesting, irrelevant or otherwise.  Been following baseball very closely since about 1982, though, so I guess this is just my intro to a thread I'll likely to have more to say in as the season progresses.  Not going to spend tons of time following the season.  2,430 regular season games can make for a mind-boggling long.  Still, as much as I now view sports as a pretty senseless, mindless distraction that I sometimes wish I could ignore, it has been in my soul (or whatevas) since I was very young and can't flush it, so I'm going to just try to enjoy it like a fan as best I can.
 
Those 2 1/2 digressions aside, I can't say I could make any serious projections for 2016's final outcome.  I haven't kept up with all of the off-season moves.  I'll toss out some thoughts, anyways...
 
AL East:
Rays Offense is a joke as is Orioles pitching, both starters and bullpen, so they're likely in wait-til-next-season-land.  Yanks did little to address their problems before last season and I suspect a repeat of that for this one.  Bosox added Price but the rest of their SP's are all B-grade or worse;  Buchholz's dominating season from a few years back looks unrepeatable and unless they can get career-seasons from Porcello and Kelly then that could be a real weakness for them this season;  'Sox system, management, heart, etc would add up to create my biggest worry as a Jays fan.  From my betting history, I've learned to be very careful on my assessment of the Jays and I confess to being not overly convinced that the SP's and bullpen are going to be much improved over last season;  lotsa youngsters entering potential prime years but I'm not sure that any true aces are there.  Jays offense remains quite dominant and most key pieces stay healthy then they should lead the league in many key categories there.
 
AL Central:
As a whole, Chisox offense is pretty grim and outside of lefty Sale--and maybe Latos--their SP's aren't impressive.  Their bullpen blew chunks last season, if memory serves.  Twins appear a few hundred years away from turning things around and should challenge the 'Sox for the cellar.  Injuns always seem to have a crap BP but their SP's will keep them competitive.  Overall, Clev's offense scares me even less than Nick Bostrom's Superintelligence does (smart AI is gonna kill my momma);  Injuns totally can't hit on the road.  Even if Verlander wins 20 I don't think the Tigers staff will be a strength and their bullpen is almost always brutal.  Tig's offense should be a force (thinking overs as a former totals player).  They should compete in what may be a weak division this season.  I notice KC won their opener vs killer-Harvey and the Mets (too bad, imo) and while they may not repeat as Champs, their pitching could be the best in the division;  their bullpen was phenomenal last season and believe-you-me, bullpens are absolutely essential in this day and age in mlb.  Nobody coming in to replace the departed Cueto and I think the addition of him and Volquez were huge for them for '15.  Royals offense is unconvincing but this team has mucho karma.
 
AL West:
Billy Beane cannot save the A's from a further slide and outside of the exceptional Sonny Gray, I don't think they have much of interest for '16.  I wouldn't even know how to assess the M's but if I had to bet on them then I think I would fade 'em totally.  Gotta feel for K-Rod who's locked in with them through 2019, I believe.  Angels are another tough call;  their best SP's are all past their prime, save Garrett Richards, and their bullpen rarely does them favours.  LAA's offense is average at best outside of Pujols and Trout;  either of them get hurt and I'd say, 'see-ya, wouldn't want to be-ya.'  Have to wait and see what the Astros can do as I don't believe that Keuchel can repeat last year's dominance, the rest of their SP's don't impress me and their bullpen seems questionable as well.  'Stros offense could be even better than last season, however, as their best parts were barely out of diapers last years and, with a year of great experience under the belt, they could be a force for years to come.
 
I put more thought and time into that then expected.  Need a time out before thinking about the NL.
 
 


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NL East:
Any further Jose Fernandez development (he's still only 23) and the Marlins are going to have a Cy Young candidate with them for a few years, and Edwin Jackson always seems to contradict my feelings that he sucks, but the rest of the Marlins pitchers aren't very flattering.  Stanton gets hurt and this offense looks to have very little behind.  I was a little surprised the Phillies didn't have more success last year (mostly via offense) but basement-chasing this season looks quite likely.  Braves are clearly rebuilding but outside of pulling an Astros-from-2015 type surprise I can't see much success from their SP's (they do have a fantastic system, however, so who knows about some of the youngsters).  Braves likely repeat their historical BP success but their offense looks average at best.  Mets could get outstanding starting pitching if their available pieces perform to their ability but this club seems to totally like the management, karma and mojo needed to compete over a full season.  Hard to have much faith in the Mets offense and even their few solid bats are kind of exiting their prime years.  Nats had to be the faves for the division coming in (same the past couple years now) and they certainly retain 3 of the best SP's in baseball, with Gio Gonzalez, Scherzer and Strasburg.  Their offense could be quite good, too, but their pen has historically been a question mark and I have no idea if they've cleansed some of the internal issues that they've had that seem to be preventing them from really reaching their potential;  either way, this division is theirs for the taking barring some major surprises.
 
NL Central:
Reds' SP's look barely average for '16, barring some youngster surprises.  Offense could keep sliding, too, and they can't hit on the road to save their lives the past few seasons.  Brewers constantly let their key pieces disappear to other teams and outside of Garza, Peralto and Capuano (all potentially very good but likely nowhere near enough) wins should be scarce;  bullpen remains a weakness.  Brewers, as well, totally struggle on the road and outside of Ryan Braun their offense is not at all intimidating.  Cards have great management and their pitching--starting and bullpen--give them a decent chance to make noise in this division;  Michael Wacha still has the chance to become one of the game's most dominant arms if he keeps progressing.  Cards offense doesn't look like a strength for '16.  Pirates look like they're developing along the same lines as the Royals and they should march out solid starting pitching constantly, with Garrit Cole and F-Rod appearing to be most dominant of a solid lot.  The offense may be no more than average but that might be enough for them to take this division;  anything better than average from them and they should take it easily.  Pitt's BP was very good last year but that hasn't often been true for them in recent years.
 
NL West:
This division always surprises me and while the Dodgers should be a factor with their $tar-$tudded payroll, we'll have to wait and see if the management changes will get them over the hump.  Opposite end of the spectrum seems the Giants, who don't do it like the Dodgers with the best that money can buy but more with the best attitude, strategy, mojo, management, what-have-you (which is exactly what LAD has been missing).  Having a perpetually stellar bullpen doesn't hurt the G-Men, either.  Outside of Goldschmidt, D'Backs offense blows but if the pitching can do something this season (doesn't hurt adding Greinke and Shelby Miller to some very good youngsters) then maybe they can stick around or even pilfer the division;  their BP historically sucks but early season I'd sure be tempted to play them as underdogs or be looking at some low-scoring games.  I'd be pretty shocked if either the Rockies or Padres make any noise in this division.
 
Well, that was enjoyable if nothing else.
I still love baseball and I think I had a totally different mindset then I would have had doing this the gambling forum that I joined back in 2001.  Totally different experience, as mentioned.  Not sure if it allowed me to be more 'objective' or not.  Always some surprises every season and the only sure bet I can suggest is that some part(s) of my assessment will be totally off the mark well before the season is finished.
 
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I totally skipped the Cubs.
Tough call for me on that one.  Arrieta and Lester look safe for the SPs, while the rest all look like hit-or-miss starters to me (never been a Lackey fan, so whatdoiknow).  Their BP instills little confidence from me.  Their offense might be the strongest in the division but that's not saying much.  They need an SP or two outside of Jon and Jake to have a great year in order to be successful.  I'd have to pick Pitt over them, presently, and yes I'm cheating, what with Pitt unbeaten at 1-0 and the Cubs still without a win this whole season (0-0)Big smile
 
Ratsen fratsen...still 9 1/5 hours until the dang Jays game starts!  Arghhh!!!
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2016 at 03:28
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

My money is on the Tigers winning it all.  I have to think that, otherwise having season tickets would make even less sense. 


Hey Scott, I bet you're pretty impressed with the Tigers' pickups in the off season.  After a poor campaign last time they are really well fancied this time and I think you'll get good value for money for those tickets this time around.  Personally I would love it if you'd knock the Royals off their perch.  I am growing a severe dislike for them lately.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2016 at 03:33
Ok, predictions time.....

AL East - Toronto  (WC - Boston)
AL Central - Kansas (WC - Detroit)
AL West - Houston

NL East - Mets (I have to be loyal, don't I?)
NL Central - Cubs (WC - St Louis)
NL West - Giants (WC - Dodgers)

World Series - Giants beat Toronto (well it is an even year)

For me, if the Giants stay clear of injuries they have the perfect mix.  Elite pitching (thanks to two good pickups) and good bats all down the order.  They are the team to beat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2016 at 07:49
I do not follow MLB as close as I would like, so I am not real sure who did well in the off season or what to expect. Although one of my favorite things to do is watch a MLB game with the sound off while listening to prog on headphones!

I would like to see the Pirates do something better than that frustrating 1 game playoff that have lost a few years in a row.  Tough last year for them to be in the same division with the Cards and the Cubs (hate the Cards).

Coin flip predictions:
AL E-Boston
AL C-Detroit
AL W-Houston
WC-KC and Tor

NL E-Mets
NL C-Cubs
NL W-Dodgers
WC-Pirates (again) and Giants

Series - Going for the curse buster, Cubs over Detroit



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2016 at 08:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2016 at 09:04
Cold weather still an issue in MLB.....just don't understand why games aren't scheduled in domes or warm weather locales until at least mid-April.  35 degrees with blustery winds ain't baseball weather.  The cancellations and delays are hard on teams and fans.....even the playing field by correcting these scheduling blunders......an easy fix that should've been rectified years ago. 
Alfred E. - that's the ONLY way to watch MLB.....sound off, prog on!  Most MLB announcers - make it sports announcers in general - leave me wondering how they landed their jobs.  Very few broadcasters call a game that I want to hear.....and most of them have passed or are making their last stand.  Hang on to Vin Scully while we can - when he leaves, there goes the golden age of sports broadcasting.   
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 11:22
My first game of the year tonight...maybe?  Yeah me!

8 p.m., ESPN, WXYT-FM (97.1): The Tigers and Yankees close out the first series at Comerica Park on national TV

Detroit Tigers (3-1) vs. New York Yankees (3-2)

When: 8 p.m.

Where: Comerica Park.

TV: ESPN.

Radio: WXYT-FM (97.1; other radio affiliates), WMGC-FM (105.1).

First-pitch weather forecast: Rain (65% chance), 40 degrees (wind chill 33 degrees). Snow likely throughout the day.

Probable starting pitchers: RHP Justin Verlander (0-0 4.50 ERA) vs. RHP Masahiro Tanaka (0-0, 3.18 ERA).

Tigers lineup: To be posted later today.

Game notes: Why are they playing a game at night in Detroit in the first week of the season? Hey, weather conditions be damned, we've got a big matchup for national TV. In this rubber match, it's the second start of the season for these pitching staff aces. Verlander was more than solid in the season opener in Miami, taking a no-hitter into the fifth inning.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 11:37
Go Tigers!!!


Loving the O's great start...

my predictions... a week late but it is a marathon ..not a sprint.. which is why the experts are wrong..just as they were last year.  The Cubs are already finding that out.. the trendy pick as the nats were last year.. till the injury bug hit..

AL E-Toronto
AL C-K.C
AL W-Houston
WC-Det and Balt

NL E- Nationals
NL C-Pirates
NL W-Giants
WC- Mets and Dodgers


AL - Toronto
NL - Nationals

WC - the Nationals win it this year..



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 11:54
An inch of snow has already fallen on the ground today.  If this were Washington, the game would have already been cancelled.  I suspect that given some idiot at ESPN thought that it would be a good idea to have the Tigers and Yankees play a night game the 2nd week of April on national television, they won't cancel this game until it has rained for 2 or 3 hours straight and by that point they are ready to show Sports Center for the rest of the night.
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hahahha... no doubt it would have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 15:55
I see you got your rain/snow out for tonight's game Scott! Thumbs Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 16:36
Yes I did.  Kind of bummed that I will have to wait 11 more days until my first game of the year but that is a first world problem that I can live with. 
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