Add Buckethead?

So give Buckethead to ecletic and we'll see what happens

Bonnek wrote: The only thing I can add here is that he was rejected for Prog Metal more then 3 years ago. At least one of the Yes votes dates after the conclusion but even so the decision must have been obvious us Buckethead   --

What kind of surprises me (but may be due to selected material used for evaluation) is that there are two yes votes, one unsure, and five no votes, but not one "move" vote (as in more suitable to another category/ suggest evaluation by another team) and not one vote for Prog Related.

The charts would be much more useful if it was an expectation that team members would use the Prog Related and Move options that were put there to help PA evaluations.  Because i was on the Eclectic team (left long ago now), I was used to thinking about different categories, and where music would be best placed, and so used the move vote and PR ones quite a bit (and unsure sometimes).  We often suggested ones to other teams which we thought better suited to other categories -- as do other teams.  I only liked to vote no (which meant to me, reject for all PA categories) if I felt really confident that it was not suitable for any PA category.   I have noticed that some people do not seem to consider other possible category placement when evaluating for their team, and have noticed no votes at progfreak that I think did just mean no for its category, rather than no for all of PA.  I think it's very important, and that teams should coordinate their efforts as much as possible/ is feasible.

As you say, one also must evaluate sufficient and relevant material.  When we were talking about Buckethead in the Eclectic team (I was already a part-time member by then), I bowed out because I didn't know much of the music, and hadn't heard anyhting that made me really want to pursue listeneing to lots of music.  It would take knowledge of quite a few albums to make the call, and his discography is daunting.  I would not expect team members, who are just volunteers, to go out and buy quite a few albums, then have to analyse them,  for an evaluation -- and there are often a  lot of evaluations to do, which are difficult enough to find time for.

I do think a couple of the Eclectic team members were pretty familiar with Buckethead (from what I remember before I left the team completely)  This is a case where an offer like Fabien's to help can be really useful, but as Rob says, there is a backlog, so don't expect much on this at any time soon.


Edited by Logan - October 21 2011 at 14:35

^^ I've tried to check ProgFreak for any sign of backlog, but I realized that Eclectic don't use it anymore. 

Here's what I have in my collection.  Quotes are from CD Universe or Amazon

Colma - "Titles like "Hills of Eternity" and "Wishing Well" are something of a giveaway -- though Brain's beats are fairly funky (and DJ Disc throws in a bit of far-off turntable scratching on a few tracks), these compositions are mostly pretty contemplative, occupying a space just one step away from the new age section."

Giant Robot - "...[He] flamboyantly displays his futuristic chops on this imaginary monster-movie soundtrack....Full of hyperkinetic 'weedly-weedly-kerranging' guitar riffs and crunching rhythms..."

Monsters and Robots - "Mixing metallic guitar heroics with funk, hip-hop, electronica, and a cinematic soundtrack feel, Buckethead's Monsters and Robots is yet another eclectic opus inspired in large part by low-budget monster/horror, martial arts, and science fiction movies, especially those of Japan"  It has Les on it so it's pretty close to a Primus album.

Funnel Weaver - a whole lot of really short prog metal tracks.

Bermuda Triangle - "The majority of cuts are steeped in various permutations of electronica which encompass trance, funk, punk, R&B, and pop motifs bolstered by Buckethead's angular harmonics. When plunging into the blues of "Phantom Lights," the unpredictable guitarist toys with modulations and modal runs that slice through the plodding rhythms with savvy sophistication. The most haunting offering is "911," rendered on September 11, 2001. With simple lines and legato phrasing set to motion upon a sleepy foundation of hypnotic drum and bass loops, the composition is simultaneously apocalyptic and soothing."

Electric Tears - "Experience the haunting, beautiful and ethereal side of Buckethead, the fried chicken bucket and white mask-wearing guitar magician who has been described by the likes of Bootsy Collins, Bill Laswell and Carlos Santana as a phenomenal guitar player. Here, Buckethead puts aside his usual ax shredding and calculated mayhem to take the listener on an atmospheric acoustic/electric voyage into his mind."

Bucketheadland 2 - "The tunes are mostly Buckethead's trademark light-speed heavy metal riffs and runs, separated/interrupted by little spoken bit"

Cuckoo Clocks of Hell, The - " blistering, super-heavy guitar heroics after releases that focused on different parts of his multiple musical personalities. That may please the heavy shredder fans, but the relentless pummeling beats can get a bit tiresome"  I do have to concur with that.  Still sounds like some kind of prog metal to me.

population override - "as close to an instrumental early Funkadelic album as almost anyone has gotten (think "Maggot Brain). These are actually tunes, not just riffing showcases, and Buckethead plays with an astonishing sense of depth and feeling; there are very few of his trademark hyperspeed licks."  More like jazz rock/fusion to me.  But it does have funky edge to it.  It's an instrumental concept album about the humans dieing off.

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 21 2011 at 16:57

tupan wrote: Hmmm... no one from Ecletic Team came to this thread?

Rob (Epignosis) posted in this thread yesterday. Look to the second to last page.

Edited by Logan - October 21 2011 at 23:05

Logan wrote: tupan wrote: Hmmm... no one from Ecletic Team came to this thread? Rob (Epignosis) posted in this thread yesterday. Look to the second to last page.

Jesus, this thread is old.

I'm not sure if we should or not. From what I've heard for him, it;s definitely experimental, very adventurous and interesting, but not much of it seems like prog to me. So, no, or maybe Prog related.

SolarLuna96 wrote: I am bumping for a progress report. I am in favor for his inclusion greatly and the fact that this argument has spanned over half a decade baffles me.

Okay, rejected from Prog Metal some five years ago so that's a non-starter.