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Joined: August 26 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 12:10
I see that you also posted the request for new extreme metal recommendations. I really like riverside and like this album a lot, but to call it metal is quite a stretch. Duda's voice is extremely melodic and he only rarely uses harshness. From what I've heard of Riverside, only Anno Domini High Definition is particularly aggressive.
If you were expecting something more 'metal', your brain might be stuck on disappointed expectations. I'm glad part of you likes it!
Joined: June 01 2012
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 12:28
SteveG wrote:
chopper wrote:
My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.
In Absentia is the metal album for people who hate metal.
I do have to agree with this sentiment. I find "In Absentia" an interesting album. When I first heard it, I thought it was fantastic and it was more-or-less on continuous play. Having lived with the album for quite some time now, I find I don't go back to it very often. If I want PT metal, I am much more likely to go back to "Deadwing" than "In Absentia." My initial reaction to "Deadwing," however, was not nearly as positive as my reaction to "In Absentia."
He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore
Joined: May 01 2007
Location: NYC/Rhinebeck
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 19:30
condor wrote:
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.
Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
This used to happen to me when I first heard "Shoot High Aim Low" by Yes for some reason. Thought it was cheesy but made my hairs stand up---doesn't have the same effect many years later.
Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 21:36
The body contradicts the brain often, especially with big decisions. My advice?: Go with the gut, or heart if you will. The brain is an amazing thing but it can fool one into thinking that because the numbers work ~ something looks good on paper ~ that that's the correct choice. But it usually isn't. Trust your instincts.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Joined: June 14 2007
Location: Near York UK
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 06:41
condor wrote:
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.
Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
And what exactly makes you think it's "rubbish"? The fact that they're Polish (a country which actually has a fine history of prog), or that they are prog metal? Or some other pre-conceived notion? Or that you obviously like King Crimson, so it might be a taste issue.
SLS makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up because it's one of the most brilliantly written and played albums I've ever heard. And that from someone who, in general, is not a fan of prog metaI.
Just play it and your reaction will tell you what you need to know.
Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 06:43
Hercules wrote:
condor wrote:
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.
Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
And what exactly makes you think it's "rubbish"? The fact that they're Polish (a country which actually has a fine history of prog), or that they are prog metal? Or some other pre-conceived notion? Or that you obviously like King Crimson, so it might be a taste issue.
SLS makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up because it's one of the most brilliantly written and played albums I've ever heard. And that from someone who, in general, is not a fan of prog metaI.
Just play it and your reaction will tell you what you need to know.
Joined: March 09 2007
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 08:04
For me, when I like the music, I try to just enjoy it, without overanalyzing the reasons, that might come later, but I always go with my personal taste. I'm done trying to intelectualize everything, and I prefer to allow my feelings take over instead, at least when it comes to music, or art in general.
Joined: January 11 2012
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 09:56
Hercules wrote:
condor wrote:
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.
Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
And what exactly makes you think it's "rubbish"? The fact that they're Polish
I love that you might think he didn't like a band because they were from Poland. I don't know if I know any music fan that hates a band because of where they are from? Hahah
Joined: June 14 2007
Location: Near York UK
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 17:21
Smurph wrote:
Hercules wrote:
condor wrote:
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.
Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
And what exactly makes you think it's "rubbish"? The fact that they're Polish
I love that you might think he didn't like a band because they were from Poland. I don't know if I know any music fan that hates a band because of where they are from? Hahah
Some people have these daft prejudices. It's almost as stupid as "I don't like this band because they are neo-prog". They listen with predetermined opinions.
Joined: August 09 2015
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Posted: August 19 2015 at 18:42
I wouldn't allow my brain to object against something that I just like, without analysis (I may ask the brain, "why", but I won't always get an answer). On the other hand, I'm fine with acquired tastes, that is, learning to appreciate something with much help of thought and analysis. I try to find and use diverse ways to appreciating something.
Certain melodies speak to certain people very personally and emotionally; I don't think it's possible to find rational explanations for this (or at least I haven't found them yet). Apart from all concerns with complexity and any rational explanations, Camel were always able to come up with melodies that spoke to me directly. Other examples (from the non-prog world) are the Comsat Angels and, yes really, Nik Kershaw. It's just the magic of music, which works in very personal ways, often not communicable and incomprehensible to others.
I contributed a bit to research about music perception. From my experiences with this I can say that subjective music perception is among the least predictable and most chaotic things there is.
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