When do you think Genesis jumped the shark? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Follow You Follow Me. Even though is a good song, it was intended to appeal to the more radio-oriented audience of the times.

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I had to find out what "jumping the shark" meant first of all, and for me, it was everything from the 1980 Duke album onwards.

Me too @Psychedelic Phil...For mw the downhill onwards was the single "Follow You, Follow Me" but the album apart from FYFM and MTM is a great album and i agree with @Psycchedelic Phil on the everything after 1980 Duke onwards Thumbs Down

for me too!

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Mormegil wrote:

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indeed

Well Genesis always had those sugary bits once per album or so (More Fool Me, Carpet Crawlers, Ripples, Your Own Special Way), some of them better and some worse (definitely had too much of it on Wind & Wuthering...)

But only later they deliberately tried to come up with a pop hit and didn't bother to hide it, so maybe I will vote on Follow You Follow Me.

richardh wrote:

Sean Trane wrote:

they didn't jump the shark on singes, but with album, IMHO.

ATTWT and Duke, ASAIAC, they're still honest attemps at being themselves in a changing musical landscape, despite three crummy single hits singles (not sure YOSW was a "hit" or a "single", though) to promote their albums.

They really started sucking the bag with Abacrap (and No reply), though I do have a soft spot for Shapes' A-side (That's all was a pleasant pop single, something the cruddy Illegal Alien wasn't)

I do like Dodo/Lurker , Keep It Dark and the title track. The production was excellent but there are some real stinkers on that album admittedly. I don't mind No Reply (okay its essentially a Collins solo track and so is 'filler' but I don't hate it).

I was depressed at the time though because they were clearly handing in their 'prog badge' and were not shy to say it. But as everyone else was doing the same then it wasn't surprising. Although the 'Shapes' album gets praised I've always found it insipid. I also hate Mama way more than anything else they did!

the only thing I don't mind on Abacrep is Abacab (title track), the rest is atrocious iMHO.... not least the fault of Paghdam, which was the architect of so many awful 80's albums.

Yeah, at first, heavy WTF for Mama, but it's still miles better than Shapes' filpside and the awful IT. If I hear Mama nowadays on the radio (where else what I hear it), I won't necessarily zap it away like I did back then.

There are only a handful of songs of theirs that I don't like, but the one I despise is Anything She Does. Now I know that many here hate the whole Invisible Touch album, but I'm not one of them. But ASD is their lower than whale sh*t on the bottom of the ocean song.

tdfloyd wrote:

There are only a handful of songs of theirs that I don't like, but the one I despise is Anything She Does. Now I know that many here hate the whole Invisible Touch album, but I'm not one of them. But ASD is their lower than whale sh*t on the bottom of the ocean song.

Interesting. The title song is worse.

Easy Money wrote:

Never mind the music, dressing up like a flower is shark jumping defined.

well it was either that and steal from Italian bands like Osanna whom they toured with and made them look as boring as they were or ..not surprisingly

get dropped by their label...

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Easy Money wrote:

Never mind the music, dressing up like a flower is shark jumping defined.

A flower?

Did I say this already - it was a gradual progression. Maybe Abacab was the significant noticeable change, but it was heading that way since Wind and Wuthering. They never jumped as such, but grudually morphed into Pop style songs. They wrre good at what they did.

Poll Question: When did Genesis jump the shark?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Your Own Special way	3	[6.67%]
Follow You Follow Me	14	[31.11%]
Misunderstanding	1	[2.22%]
No Reply At All	2	[4.44%]
That's All	2	[4.44%]
Invisible Touch	6	[13.33%]
Ain't No Shark Jumping Here!	9	[20.00%]
Other ( Please list below)	8	[17.78%]
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