Going for the one -Yes

 Blacksword-Your attitude in music is like -everything that is not prog is crap.

 It isn`t so .

Blacksword wrote: Genesisprog wrote:   Fragile DT -Yeah Genesis can put alot of emotions in their music but Yes    can much much more.  It depends what touches you personally, I guess. Both bands made very emotional music, but IMO Genesis just about beats Yes.

Umm....well I don't think that Genesis necessarily has MORE emotion than YES.....Steve Howe is one of the most emotive players I have ever heard in the rock medium.

Proglover wrote: yargh wrote: I guess G4tO is a good album -- especially considering the band's future after this one -- but it has an "all dressed up but nowhere to go" feel to it.  It's the first Yes album that could be called a "water-treader," in that the band didn't try to do much that was new.  In spite of all that, I like most of it.  Turn of the Century and Parallels are the two tracks that I think are superlative.  The title track would have been the best on the album, but it goes on about twice as long as it should.  Wondrous Stories and Awaken are the duds.  You are crazy............

Well, it's all a matter of taste.  To my tastes, inane sentimentality and the dragging of simple musical ideas into the ground aren't examples of good music.  Listening to 'Awaken' is like being forced to drink a gallon of lite beer in one sitting.   

GFTO is the best album I've ever heard.

It's the Mount Everest of albums.

It's good. I enjoy it, but i won't call it a masterpiece.

salmacis wrote: To be honest, there are few, if any, dreadful Yes albums- certainly some are lacking, such as 'Tormato' and 'Union', but Yes' AOR material like '90125' and 'Big Generator' is far cleverer than Genesis' 80s stuff is for the most part, and albums like 'The Ladder' are actually superb for a band so late into their career...

I guess it depends on what you mean by "dreadful."  IMO, if Yes had begun life with Tormato and only had the albums to their credit that they released since then, they'd be a pretty sorry excuse for a band.  Tormato wasn't any good, IMO.  Drama had Machine Messiah, but I'm wholly unimpressed by the rest of it.  90125 was mediocre -- they did some interesting things with Owner of a Loney Heart, but much of the rest of the album is boring arena-rock -- nowhere near the calibre of Abacab, IMO.  Now with Big Generator I think they were on to something.  No, it wasn't really "Yes," (as anyone into their history knows, Rabin-Yes wasn't really the same band), but this represented the pinnacle of the Rabin era, IMO. Then there was Union and ABWH which I think were god-awful.  Talk was fair; the Keys Studio stuff was fair, Open Your Eyes was one of the worst albums I've ever heard by a band that has released an album that I think is good (right up there with Calling All Stations).  The Ladder was frustratingly inconsistent and Magnification brought Yes back up to the level of being blandly decent.   

cobb wrote: So, in other words Yargh, you prefer pop to composition. That's fine, but did you know that you are on a progressive music site?

Abacab is far more creative than 90125.  Furthermore I rate TYA, Fragile, CTTE and Relayer among the best prog albums ever, so spare me your witticisms about my preferring pop over prog.  The fact that you're even discussing Yes' post 1974 material in terms of how *good* it is says a lot more about your tolerance for real progressive music than my own.