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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2007 at 07:10
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

I bet Liebezeit would have been a fantastic experience in the 70's with Can, though. I think he's hypnotic sound is unique and so much more than a metronome. But he's really not that underrated.

I think Embryo's Christian Burchard is.

and Giulio Capiozzo from Area

Billy Hart (Herbie Hancock, Pharoah Sanders..) never gets mentioned among the greatest jazzdrummers, does he?



Nothing wrong with anyone on the list, but i don't feel any urge to vote for any of them.

Burchard is definitely underrated. He is in my personal top 5 list.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2007 at 01:41
Undoubtedly, it's Richie Hayward of Little Feat. The man has such a unique style and his sense of rhythm is impeccable. I love his feel for the kit and the way he works the toms and the splash cymbals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2007 at 01:42
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

I voted for Jon Hiseman from the list - top drawer, very jazzy player.  I suppose he's not so widely rated because he's usually playing in the kind of jazz-rock context which doesn't tend to fill stadiums.
 

I think Bernard Purdie is rather underrated as well, probably because he's mostly a session player - check out his playing on Steely Dan's The Royal Scam, superb.


Nice call on Bernard Purdie. Such a smooth style. I love that shuffle groove on "Babylon Sisters".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2007 at 12:40
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Billy Hart (Herbie Hancock, Pharoah Sanders..) never gets mentioned among the greatest jazzdrummers, does he?
 
I would not have rated him that highly based on the recorded performances of his that I've heard (not so many).  But I saw him play live in NY a couple of years ago and he was really superb, with a very inventive and 'painterly' approach to the durms (if that makes any sense). 
 
Also he is one of those drummers who is just great to watch because of the play of expressions on his face as he works the kit..  I don't think anyone in the audience was watching the other guys in the band even when they were taking their solos...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2007 at 16:30
To pick up the name Christian Burchard again. He was a student of  T. S. Mani, a name that should ring a bell for anyone who claims to know sonething about percussion. He is the leader of the Karnataka College of Percussion. Other students of him are Trilok Gurtu and Ramesh Shotam, both percussionists of the highest order.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2007 at 12:27

I've said it before, I'll say it again... Carter Beauford (of DMB)... he's in the wrong band.

My FAVORITE drummers...

Mickey Hart

Ginger Baker

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2007 at 12:31
Red hot chilli peppers Drummer!
He's got that funky groove Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2007 at 21:25
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Red hot chilli peppers Drummer!
He's got that funky groove Cool


Anybody in the Chili Peppers is NOT underrated.  They might just be the most overrated band ever, with the possible exception of Green Day.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2007 at 21:35
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Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Red hot chilli peppers Drummer!
He's got that funky groove Cool
Anybody in the Chili Peppers is NOT underrated.  They might just be the most overrated band ever, with the possible exception of Green Day.


Hmmm... someone here doesn't play an instrument!

The musicians in RHCP are astounding! Flea is one of the best bassists ever, Frusciante is VERY capable of pulling off a Satch-like solo, and the drummer possesses the ability to create an infectious groove. I don't own any albums of theirs, but I've heard a lot of their material and respect them. The fact that a band doesn't make innovative music and is popular doesn't make their music bad or overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2007 at 21:38
Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:


Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Red hot chilli peppers Drummer!
He's got that funky groove Cool
Anybody in the Chili Peppers is NOT underrated.  They might just be the most overrated band ever, with the possible exception of Green Day.


Hmmm... someone here doesn't play an instrument!

The musicians in RHCP are astounding! Flea is one of the best bassists ever, Frusciante is VERY capable of pulling off a Satch-like solo, and the drummer possesses the ability to create an infectious groove. I don't own any albums of theirs, but I've heard a lot of their material and respect them. The fact that a band doesn't make innovative music and is popular doesn't make their music bad or overrated.
 
And in their early days they did make some pretty innovative music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2007 at 11:45

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2007 at 21:31
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

I voted for Jon Hiseman from the list - top drawer, very jazzy player.  I suppose he's not so widely rated because he's usually playing in the kind of jazz-rock context which doesn't tend to fill stadiums.
 

I think Bernard Purdie is rather underrated as well, probably because he's mostly a session player - check out his playing on Steely Dan's The Royal Scam, superb.


Nice call on Bernard Purdie. Such a smooth style. I love that shuffle groove on "Babylon Sisters".

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Of related interest, I just found a great article covering the drummers on all of Steely Dan's albums:
 
 
Very interesting reading (even though a lot of it is recycled from Brian Sweet's book Reelin' In The Years).
 
EDIT:  I've done the author of the article (Ken Micaleff) an injustice, his piece came out before the Brian Sweet book.  I think the recycling is on the other foot!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2007 at 16:36
Even though he's not really underrated, I had to vote for Ginger Baker. He's the only drummer that rivaled Keith Moon in skill and energy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2007 at 16:43
Originally posted by Freak Freak wrote:

Even though he's not really underrated, I had to vote for Ginger Baker. He's the only drummer that rivaled Keith Moon in skill and energy.
 
Skill yes, but nobody ever rivaled Moon's energy. Baker is the better drummer othe two though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:09
Have to go for La Barbera.. (underrated by us anyway)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2007 at 19:16
hahahha.. who the hell voted for Nick Mason...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 12:34
My personal choice in this matter would be Brian Davison, who played in The Nice ( Emerson's pre-ELP band) as well as Refugee ( before Pat Moraz joined Yes).
If you can find Refugee's self-titled album, you'll hear what I mean.  The man was a monster behind his small kit...so fluid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 14:42
Aynsley Dunbar.  List of artists who tapped his talent:
 
Zappa (Uncle Meat, Chunga's Revenge, Fillmore East 1971, 200 Motels, Waka/Jawaka... etc)
Bowie (Pin Ups and Diamond Dogs [One of Bowie's best albums])
Jeff Beck (Tallyman & Rock My Plimsoul)
Donovan (Barabajagal)
John Lennon (Sometime in New York City)
Lou Reed
Journey
Whitesnake
Nils Lofgren
Sammy Hagar
Jefferson Starship
Keith Emerson
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2007 at 18:26
Originally posted by tdbark tdbark wrote:

Aynsley Dunbar. 
 

ClapGood choice. There's a track  he's on by Keith West of Tomorrow called On A Saturday (which also features Steve Howe on acoustic guitar). Dunbar's drumming on it is thunderous and amazing.
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