Pussy Riot Sentenced To 2 years In Prison

lucas wrote: Stalin starved people in Ukraine. In consequence, they had to eat their own children to stay alive. From 1917 to 1980, the communist party is responsible for 120 milion deaths.   I hate when people living in "western"countries talk about how  life was good in countries with communist government. My parents left Poland during the Jaruzelski years, mainly because my father was jailed for having given his opinion on the government's politics (yes, freedom of speech was banned).   And I hate even more people who wear T-shirts or other goods bearing the face of the terrorist Che Guevera (a physician who kills people, isn't that inconsistent ?).

The T wrote: Pastor Rex Cat wrote: Paul McCartney and Madonna among others in the music world are demanding their release from prison. And now it's Sting joining in as well. http://freepussyriot.org/ Now those three idiots have joined the cause. Ok now it,s when freedom will be well served.  I should google and see if any of them have ever worn a murderer-Che shirt....

I'm not sure to see the relationship between that Pussy Riot case and the Che Guevara fashion...

Anyway, if we could focus on the sole Pussy Riot turmoil, maybe things could be a bit clearer for everyone.

Oh, and may Bachar El-Assad live long.

Excessive, excessive... Maybe invading a church and disturbing a mess isn't exactly being polite, but it's rather tame compared to 60/70's Actionnism (google it at your own risks!), even if they claimed to be influenced by this movement.

Oh, by the way, from what I read, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel and Genesis support them.

akamaisondufromage wrote: One relationship between this case and Che Guevara Ts is that one of the Pussy Riot girls was wearing a 'No Pasaran' T Shirt at the trial. It seemed rather odd that she was allowed to do this! (No direct relationship between No Pasaran and Che though, just that they were both political Ts).

If they had done this in Cuba, they would have been jailed for life ! I remember seeing a documentary about Cuba, and there was a punk rock band that had to play in secret by fear of denouncement from neighbours (like in Poland during the state of war, there are citizens in Cuba who watch their neighbours and report to authorities any "suspect" activity). A lot of artists (poets, musicians...) are jailed in Cuba for their anti-authority position. Unfortunately, none of our beloved musicians react towards this repression.

Edited by lucas - August 19 2012 at 04:52

CPicard wrote: The T wrote: Pastor Rex Cat wrote: Paul McCartney and Madonna among others in the music world are demanding their release from prison. And now it's Sting joining in as well. http://freepussyriot.org/ Now those three idiots have joined the cause. Ok now it,s when freedom will be well served.  I should google and see if any of them have ever worn a murderer-Che shirt.... I'm not sure to see the relationship between that Pussy Riot case and the Che Guevara fashion... Anyway, if we could focus on the sole Pussy Riot turmoil, maybe things could be a bit clearer for everyone. Oh, and may Bachar El-Assad live long.

 

akamaisondufromage wrote: lucas wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: One relationship between this case and Che Guevara Ts is that one of the Pussy Riot girls was wearing a 'No Pasaran' T Shirt at the trial. It seemed rather odd that she was allowed to do this! (No direct relationship between No Pasaran and Che though, just that they were both political Ts).   If they had done this in Cuba, they would have been jailed for life ! I remember seeing a documentary about Cuba, and there was a punk rock band that had to play in secret by fear of denouncement from neighbours (like in Poland during the state of war, there are citizens in Cuba who watch their neighbours and report to authorities any "suspect" activity). A lot of artists (poets, musicians...) are jailed in Cuba for their anti-authority position. Unfortunately, none of our beloved musicians react towards this repression.   I mean, everyone knows that Russia is a repressive country, we are not born yesterday, so why don't we dare look at other countries that seem repressive to their citizens only.   I'm sure you are right that if they had done this in Cuba they would have got life. Equally in other countries they would have just 'disapeared' ,and just playing music of any type would have got them in this situation. Russia gets the press exactly for the reason Snow Dog states and because of the power Putin wields outside Russia (as well as inside). What influence does Cuba have?   I know that maybe these pop stars could say something about other dictatorships.  However, I think they usually get sl*g.ed off whatever!  Either for not talking about politics or for talking about politics.

Jesus, are you people thick or what? Here's the relation Che has with this whole thing:

1 - retarded people think he was a freedom fighter
2 - said people usually idolize him and have all kind of memorabilia with his face on
3 - wearing a shirt with his face on is considered kewl because his cause was "noble"
4 - he fought against capitalism and its excesses (consumism included)
5 - he was against freedom of expression
6 - he was a racist towards black people (after he returned from his gerrilla time in Africa)
7 - he supported and was supported by totalitarian socialist regimes
8 - people use Che as a toke, a symbol in order to fight oppressive regimes of all sorts

It's a paradox, an oxymoron. I can't believe you guys are actually this oblivious.

CCVP wrote: Jesus, are you people thick or what? Here's the relation Che has with this whole thing: 1 - retarded people think he was a freedom fighter 2 - said people usually idolize him and have all kind of memorabilia with his face on 3 - wearing a shirt with his face on is considered kewl because his cause was "noble" 4 - he fought against capitalism and its excesses (consumism included) 5 - he was against freedom of expression 6 - he was a racist towards black people (after he returned from his gerrilla time in Africa) 7 - he supported and was supported by totalitarian socialist regimes 8 - people use Che as a toke, a symbol in order to fight oppressive regimes of all sorts It's a paradox, an oxymoron. I can't believe you guys are actually this oblivious.

So, you mean that the Pussy Riot members are supported by the totalitarian socialist regime (especially Cuba) and are racist?
I'm more and more confused by the evolution of this thread.

Or maybe I'm wrong in this story and I should consider supporting Poutine because this former KGB agent, supported by the Russian Church and nostalgics of totalitarian communist USSR, had been insulted by a bunch of pro-Guevara socialist punks... or something

Pussy Riot is in no way Che Guevara, in fact are rather different entities in many ways, is that clear? 

Oh the irony the irony 

^No one.

Which leads us to another question: who listens to any Russian rock band, anyway?

I don't want to sound ruder than usual, but even Jamaican or African metal bands have more press than Russian metal bands... That must mean something.