Lizard....WTF

I always loved this biting comment of John about his former friend. though I am certain he is exaggerating some; the role of McCartney was more important than he makes it. but it is definitely true that McCartney's output is more or less muzak. "Live and Let Die" is a nice exception though

BaldJean wrote: I always loved this biting comment of John about his former friend. though I am certain he is exaggerating some; the role of McCartney was more important than he makes it. but it is definitely true that McCartney's output is more or less muzak. "Live and Let Die" is a nice exception though

No, its not true. Mccartney is and was an excellent composer of music!

lizard is among their best albums: it is also their most jazzy one!

i appreciate it very much also because fripp plays sensitive & decent guitar notes!

I agree with snow dog & others that good music needs time to get used to.

I agree with Saen trane that "The battle of glass tears" is briliant.

Being a fan of KC for many years and loving Lizard for more than 20 years now, it is obvious that I think different than thelostchord (a great album of the moodies bty). For me Lizard is one of the most wonderfull albums ever made from start to end. Their most jazzy album on one hand and then very classical bolero on the other hand. Very soft in Lady of the dancing water and Prince Rupert awakes and then very rough with Cirkus and parts of The battle of glass tears. 

I also think that Haskel's voice fits great in the first side of the record (Cirkus to lady) and fails a beat only in the begining of battle. Happy family & Indoor games are sang just the way they should IMO.

But ............ your right to think else. From here it seems like your loss.

I freakin' love Lizard, i prefer it to Islands (although only just) and Wake of Posiedon (by quite a way).

"Cirkus" is indeed an inspired song with amazing acoustic playing by Fripp, even though in recent interviews he pretty much dismisses all the guitaring on the 1st four albums as crap. I quite like the Beatles inspired "Happy Family" and "Indoor Games" is also not bad by a long shot. The title track certainly has its moments - shorten it by 3-4 minutes in some of the long, drawn-out sections and it could be near perfect jazz-prog.

BaldFriede wrote: the icon of sin wrote: I freakin' love Lizard, i prefer it to Islands (although only just) and Wake of Posiedon (by quite a way). "Cirkus" is indeed an inspired song with amazing acoustic playing by Fripp, even though in recent interviews he pretty much dismisses all the guitaring on the 1st four albums as crap. I quite like the Beatles inspired "Happy Family" and "Indoor Games" is also not bad by a long shot. The title track certainly has its moments - shorten it by 3-4 minutes in some of the long, drawn-out sections and it could be near perfect jazz-prog. No, I just love the drawn-out improvisations. Lizard has the closest to an improvised fugue that was ever made in prog.

Suppose...I'll listen to it now and concentrate.   I forgot to mention how much i like the classical parts of Lizard! Completely unlike their other stuff.

so many people cant be wrong eh? i fell in love with the album as soon as i heard it. very dark album to me, not sure where i was in my life but it seemed to be very fitting. think the vocals are great also. this album holds a special place in my collection. give it another go as youre sure to love it.

what a great thread though, with a very interesting beatles tangent. great