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Early 90's Technical Death Metal Showdown
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^ Yup, to me it's more complex. Not everything with a saxophone is Jazz either (but much). LOL
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Yup, to me it's more complex. Not everything with a saxophone is Jazz either (but much). LOL

it's not the same, growling is a very specific characteristic of the death metal genre. 
Saxophone can be used in any genre, obviously. 
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^ To me death metal is not just defined by the vocals. I'm a musician, and when I listen to Focus, there's just too much that's really different from the typical death metal style. 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ To me death metal is not just defined by the vocals. I'm a musician, and when I listen to Focus, there's just too much that's really different from the typical death metal style. 

I never said it's typical death metal, but technical and progressive one. 

Obviously not just defined by the vocals, but that specific kind of vocals is front and center. That's why the "death" component is specified in genre tags (like death-doom or example, with that tag, listeners know what to expect). 
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^ Sure, you never said that it's typical death metal, and I didn't say you did. I just said that FOR ME there is sufficient difference that I'd rather just assign the more generic term "extreme metal".

Now, are you going to insist that I cease doing so?
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Sure, you never said that it's typical death metal, and I didn't say you did. I just said that FOR ME there is sufficient difference that I'd rather just assign the more generic term "extreme metal".

Now, are you going to insist that I cease doing so?

I wasn't insisting you cease doing anything, I just think your description/tag does not do justice to that album. Smile
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^ It's how the release is listed here, btw.. Doesn't say Tech/Prog Death Metal, but Tech/Prog Extreme Metal. Of course that's because of the crude genre system here, but the point is that it is NOT WRONG. I can call a square a rectangle, and of course you could argue that it is doing injustice to the square ... it could scream "I'm a special rectangle, my sides are all of the same length!", to which I would say "sure, but you are ALSO a rectangle".
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ It's how the release is listed here, btw.. Doesn't say Tech/Prog Death Metal, but Tech/Prog Extreme Metal. Of course that's because of the crude genre system here, but the point is that it is NOT WRONG. I can call a square a rectangle, and of course you could argue that it is doing injustice to the square ... it could scream "I'm a special rectangle, my sides are all of the same length!", to which I would say "sure, but you are ALSO a rectangle".

The tech/extreme prog metal is fine with the debut, not correct anymore with the rest of their following albums. 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ To me death metal is not just defined by the vocals. I'm a musician, and when I listen to Focus, there's just too much that's really different from the typical death metal style. 
When I listen to Focus, I sometimes hear yodeling.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ To me death metal is not just defined by the vocals. I'm a musician, and when I listen to Focus, there's just too much that's really different from the typical death metal style. 

When I listen to Focus, I sometimes hear yodeling.


Tech/Extreme Death Yodeling.

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