Judas Priest (Prog Metal)

Scott, I LOVE that album, and I agree (to a point) with the AllMusic guide's statement. However, I would be grateful if you looked at my posts and gave some consideration to my remarks. Such an addition is going to wreak havoc on the forums, unless the Admins decide to crack down on complaints. As I have already stated, the general membership is not ready for a more 'open' approach to prog, and including a band that has such strong connections with a controversial genre such as heavy metal cannot but cause vehement reactions. Now that I am older and wiser, I wouldn't add Iron Maiden again... Unfortunately, you can't force open-mindedness on people.

 ^ sounds exciting!

micky wrote: cuncuna wrote: If this happens (and it will), David Bowie will... no, he'll probably just stay right where he is, swimming on lots of money... that isn't exactly constructive ..and has been the problem with trying to discuss bands like this.  Those kind of statements. First off.. for reasons already stated...  Judas Priest has a slight chance of being here and has nothing to do whatsoever with Bowie.

The problem of discussing Judas Priest is Judas Priest. Bowie is just a vehicle to say "¿you seriously consider Judas Priest and reject Bowie?". 
Now, I want to make this clear: I do not think David Bowie should be added. That goes also for Mercury Rev and other bands wich I won't list right now. Having said that, if someone says "Judas Priest", it forces me to reconsider my concepto of prog - prog related. And within that "acomodated" logic, David Bowie sounds more than reasonable.

On Judas Priest itself, I'm pretty sure that, if asked, they would laugh at the idea of being considered a prog band. Mercury Rev would react the same.


Edited by cuncuna - March 16 2008 at 12:28

Certif1ed wrote: But as a Proto-Prog metal band, they dot all the i's and cross all the t's - more so than Iron Maiden. I'm not saying "If Maiden are here...", just pointing out that it would take a very long time to count the Prog Metal bands directly influenced by Priest (as opposed to indirect influence like, say, a particular Classical composer, where a PM band might quote a composer or write in the style for a few bars, but would never construct an entire piece that sounded like a classical composition).   "Rocka Rolla" is, to my ears at least, every bit as proggy as anything Uriah Heep released - just without the organ.

amen brother...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI0iX2q4pw8

what great old footage!  seeing them on The Old Grey Whistle Test is just too much.. akin to the Doors on Sullivan 



wonderful

^^ Love that one as well! Really need some Priest now 

Yep, THE BATTLE RAGES ON!

this discussion is (or has become) not about whether Priest should be considered a Prog band, but whether their music impacted other musicians who eventually developed true progessive metal

frankly I think Cert has a point even though I credit Maiden with a bigger influence on Voivod, Metallica's prog periods and bands as DT












Edited by Atavachron - April 22 2008 at 20:33

I didn't think so either... not by what constisutes PM by todays standards of course.   but what may sort of throws the discussion off kilter is that .. at least for some including me till I sort of saw what PM was about and how you all are defining it...  those early early years.. were definitely metal.. or could easily be called metal... and were quite prog.  I do think Mark has a point... on the surface .. they were just as prog as a good many groups that occupy unquestioned spots here at the archives. ..such as Uriah Heep.

micky wrote: I didn't think so either... not by what constisutes PM by todays standards of course.   but what may sort of throws the discussion off kilter is that .. at least for some including me till I sort of saw what PM was about and how you all are defining it...  those early early years.. were definitely metal.. or could easily be called metal... and were quite prog.  I do think Mark has a point... on the surface .. they were just as prog as a good many groups that occupy unquestioned spots here at the archives. ..such as Uriah Heep.

Edited by TheProgtologist - April 22 2008 at 23:13