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Now here’s a thought^ imagine morningrise... with the production value of Blackwater park
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Now here’s a thought^ imagine morningrise... with the production value of Blackwater park
Wow ! I have indeed !! I know the drums sound rather flimsy on Morningrise (they sound a bit better on Orchid, surprisingly enough) but I did honestly already think your suggestions.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Now here’s a thought^ imagine morningrise... with the production value of Blackwater park
Wow ! I have indeed !! I know the drums sound rather flimsy on Morningrise (they sound a bit better on Orchid, surprisingly enough) but I did honestly already think your suggestions.

sorry to point it out, as much as I agree that an Opeth discussion is much needed (do you want me to start a thread or one of you can do it?), let's keep an eye on the rating abuse and report here Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Now here’s a thought^ imagine morningrise... with the production value of Blackwater park
Wow ! I have indeed !! I know the drums sound rather flimsy on Morningrise (they sound a bit better on Orchid, surprisingly enough) but I did honestly already think your suggestions.


sorry to point it out, as much as I agree that an Opeth discussion is much needed (do you want me to start a thread or one of you can do it?), let's keep an eye on the rating abuse and report here Big smile
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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=53439

user has ratings for both the new Steven Wilson album and Kansas Album, which both are not out yet.
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^Gone, along with the other pre-release rankings for those albums. Thanks

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OK. So perhaps numeric ratings are ok for some people. I totally understand that. But, if there's no review to accompany the numeric rating, IMO, it doesn't say anything. How can you just assume what the person who rated something was thinking if all you know is the amount of stars they gave to an album? You gotta know the person, that's one thing. But even then, it's still a guessing game.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

OK. So perhaps numeric ratings are ok for some people. I totally understand that. But, if there's no review to accompany the numeric rating, IMO, it doesn't say anything. How can you just assume what the person who rated something was thinking if all you know is the amount of stars they gave to an album? You gotta know the person, that's one thing. But even then, it's still a guessing game.


Although that's broadly true I'm not sure why there would be any good reason to abolish this facility. All you have to go on is how the rater interpreted the descriptions provided for each star rating. With a large enough sample size this can provide a reasonable indication if a PA member might enjoy the album. The 'ratings only review' was intended to make the site more inclusive i.e. to allow non English speakers to contribute. We can debate it's worth certainly but at least it does achieve that.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

OK. So perhaps numeric ratings are ok for some people. I totally understand that. But, if there's no review to accompany the numeric rating, IMO, it doesn't say anything. How can you just assume what the person who rated something was thinking if all you know is the amount of stars they gave to an album? You gotta know the person, that's one thing. But even then, it's still a guessing game.

this thread is in the reporting abuse section of the forum, so if you ask me, the usefulness of rating is not the place to discuss here Make a thread some place if you want to. 
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How can there by ratings and even a review of the new Kansas album when it is not even out yet?
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^ Guess TenYearsAfter has got their album sample a couple of days before their latest album released.

Not sure about others' ratings though ...
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Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:


How can there by ratings and even a review of the new Kansas album when it is not even out yet?

Its sort of been the unwritten rule over the years that reviews are accepted as there are those that get advanced copies. As long as the review indicates that the reviewer actually heard the material (as I suppose should be the case for all reviews). Myself, I received a couple different albums up to a month before release, I suspect because I was ordering other albums artist/label direct and they likely didn't want to deal with 2 different international shipments

Anyway, ratings without reviews do not enjoy the same liberty. This album along with the new Steve Wilson and Haken albums I scoured multiple times before the release date. I apparently wasn't vigilant enough on Kansas. The hilarious thing was the Haken album had numerous ratings that I had to delete multiple times before the release. Then 1 week after release it was still sitting at 0 ratings. LOL 

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^yes, promos are already sent out ... anyhow, there's always some competition going on who will be the first to post a review ... terrible, useless ...


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The Flower Kings "Islands" two 5 stars ratings... album out in Oct 30th...
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Originally posted by TSoP2018 TSoP2018 wrote:

The Flower Kings "Islands" two 5 stars ratings... album out in Oct 30th...


Scrubbed.

Thank you.

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Wobbler "Dwellers of the Deep" two 5 stars ratings... album out in Oct 23rd...
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There have been some early reviewer copies distributed ^ but it’s probably not the case
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^In which case, reviews that clearly show the album has been listened to are fine. Ratings, no. 

The ratings have been axed.


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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=7422
 

This collaborator (edit: actually not a collaborator my bad) has rated literally EVERY SINGLE dream theater release on this website as 1 star. It seems this collaborator is still active but I call BS on this one. I don't believe that this person who apparently despises the band has gone out of their way to listen to every single piece of recorded material this band, that he hates, has ever released.

Also, the fact that all the ratings are in a row kinda implies that he likely just clicked through systematically rating all but 2 releases 1 star.

Tis person here is in fact a collaborator with a similar case but to a lesser degree: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=64154


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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=7422

This collaborator has rated literally EVERY SINGLE dream theater release on this website as 1 star. It seems this collaborator is still active but I call BS on this one. I don't believe that this person who apparently despises the band has gone out of their way to listen to every single piece of recorded material this band, that he hates, has ever released.

Also, the fact that all the ratings are in a row kinda implies that he likely just clicked through systematically rating all but 2 releases 1 star.

thanks for pointing this out, those ratings need to be nuked, he is not a collaborator. 
It's rating abuse, kinda mean spirited, or is it just me? 


Edited by Cristi - October 01 2020 at 02:04
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