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Poll Question: Is Frank Zappa prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2009 at 12:42
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Frank Zappa is Serg Tankian


No, that would be the singer from Disillusion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2009 at 15:20
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Frank Zappa is Serg Tankian


No, that would be the singer from Disillusion.

Except saying he sounds like a Serj Tankian clone simply isn't true. Stern Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2009 at 17:51
Maybe we should look at it this way: if Zappa was categorically considered prog back in the 70s, then the standards for creativity, musicianship, and versatility would be high enough that pop-prog acts like Genesis and Yes would never have made it in...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2009 at 17:03
Zappa was so prog, he made Lather, a 4 LP album (8 sides)

how many 70s prog bands made 4 LP albums? if that's not prog enough, idk what is...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2009 at 17:19
   What a Question , and What a Poll ?  we don't need this Poll to know if Frank Zappa is considered as Progressive . If the name is Frank Pourcel ( the french artist ) , there's no need to say NO , he's not Progressive , but if the Name Is Frank Zappa , then yu need to be familiar with Apostrophe , Sheikh Yerbouti and Joe's Garage to see the difference between commercial pop music , and Progressive Rock music  .
   And by the Way , Sorry for beeing rude in my answer , but i felt that it's a must be done way to do ///////////////////
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2009 at 17:24
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Maybe we should look at it this way: if Zappa was categorically considered prog back in the 70s, then the standards for creativity, musicianship, and versatility would be high enough that pop-prog acts like Genesis and Yes would never have made it in...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 08:29
FZ puts in everything he can whenever he can. I usually speak and write about him in the present tense.
   His music was comedy music, just like Jeff Simmons said. But, the jokes were sometimes verbal sometimes musical. Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar is as close to progressive rock as he got, but, since his guitar playing was so bluesy, I am inclined to call them a blues fusion act.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2009 at 21:11
eehhh, yes????Confused  (Meaning "yes" in swedish teen-language when said like the question is stupid to begin with or/and to provoce etc.)

Edited by XunknownX - May 07 2009 at 21:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 03:21
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

For the people who are saying this thread is dumb etc please read how this thread came about here.Therefore it will make sense why this exists and will avoid Henry being flamed lol

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57489&PN=2

Anyway I've said my point and I'm very happy with the results.
 
I apologise for any inadvertent part I played in the creation of this thread - I guess I should take the blame along with mrcozdudeWink
 
Seriously I repeat my original post on the other thread - if FZ ain't progressive I'm a tortilla - and totally agree with the guys who say he deserves a category to himself.
It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 04:21
When it comes to prog, the biggest thing for me is the actual progression inherent in the music as well as lyrical themes. Frank Zappa... well, The Mothers were pretty avant-garde for their time, but avant-garde doesn't fall under the prog umbrella in my world. But I think that had more to do with the freak scene and making weird music for weird music's sake.

His solo stuff? Not really, at least to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 04:27

He was ahead of his time, being the very first person west of the pond to produce prog music (sorry, but in my small world nothing is known about Miles Davis, who is added to the archves recently, but his name Embarrassed).

I think RIO/Avant-Prog fits him well enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 05:35
Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

For the people who are saying this thread is dumb etc please read how this thread came about here.Therefore it will make sense why this exists and will avoid Henry being flamed lol

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57489&PN=2

Anyway I've said my point and I'm very happy with the results.
 
I apologise for any inadvertent part I played in the creation of this thread - I guess I should take the blame along with mrcozdudeWink
 
Seriously I repeat my original post on the other thread - if FZ ain't progressive I'm a tortilla - and totally agree with the guys who say he deserves a category to himself.


We've created a monster!

But I think it's ok Zappa's going nowhere fast from the PA
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 08:44
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

For the people who are saying this thread is dumb etc please read how this thread came about here.Therefore it will make sense why this exists and will avoid Henry being flamed lol

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57489&PN=2

Anyway I've said my point and I'm very happy with the results.
 
I apologise for any inadvertent part I played in the creation of this thread - I guess I should take the blame along with mrcozdudeWink
 
Seriously I repeat my original post on the other thread - if FZ ain't progressive I'm a tortilla - and totally agree with the guys who say he deserves a category to himself.


We've created a monster!
 
 
And we didn't even mean toWink


Edited by el dingo - May 08 2009 at 08:45
It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 09:56
YES EMO guy




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 10:35
We *need* an "Is Frank Zappa power metal?" thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 10:39
Did Zappa ever consider himself Prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 10:41
Did anyone ever consider themselves prog Wink?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 12:45
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

YES EMO guy
 
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Edited by el dingo - May 08 2009 at 13:11
It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 23:13
If James Brown was the Grandfather of soul, Frank Zappa was, and still is the Grandfather of progressive music. He started all that in 1966 with "Freak Out", and then in 1967 with "Absolutely Free", and then in 1968 with "We're Only In It For The Money"......and on and on and on............................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 08:33
Originally posted by Faubzzy Faubzzy wrote:

If James Brown was the Grandfather of soul, Frank Zappa was, and still is the Grandfather of progressive music. He started all that in 1966 with "Freak Out", and then in 1967 with "Absolutely Free", and then in 1968 with "We're Only In It For The Money"......and on and on and on............................

Definitively put. Thumbs Up
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Edited by Slartibartfast - May 12 2009 at 20:27
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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