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CCVP 
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Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
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 Posted: July 09 2012 at 20:59 |
 Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
A lot of people like Death, though, and I'm sure some would put them in their top ten bands. Many peope who dislike DT are fans of Death, so it makes sense that they would keep voting for them. You should have picked Torman Maxt, the most hated band on progarchives, instead. 
EDIT - replying to Geoff, two people posted while I was still writing. |
Torman Maxt isn't so bad, actually. Too much blind hate towards them IMO because of the sh*tstorm one review caused some years ago.
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I haven't actually heard any of their stuff, I had just read reviews and heard people call them the "most hated band." I did notice that their latest release has a 3.5 rating or something; it seems like the only one people really hate is "The Problem of Pain, Part 1." |
Making a long story short, that is because some years ago (probably as way for M@X to make the site more profitable), bands could pay for a prime spot at the site's homepage. For some time that worked quite well and it was (in my opinion, let me be clear) a great breath of fresh air, specially regarding new bands.
Then Tormant Maxt jumped on that wagon for their now lowest rated album, Problem of Pain 1, and somebody s*at a huge 1 star review on the album, basically telling that is was the worst thing in the history of mankind. The guys kindly asked M@X to remove it at least as long as they were paying for the spot. Then there was an "outcry" and "accusations" of censorship and whatnot; instead of letting things cool down, the guys from Tormant Maxt fed the flame war that followed with tons of gallons of gasoline.
By that time, I was only lurking at the forums, possibly before I was a member, so I couldn't see everything (I think there was a lot happening behind the scenes), but that's what I recall of it.
They weren't the only ones to crap all over their fandom, though. Even though it happened before I was a member, I know that Trent Gardner, from Magellan, had some altercations in this forum and is quite disliked by some of the older members (most of whom don't browse here anymore for various reasons); Steven Wilson also had his problems with PA, if he wasn't so bloody brilliant (and if PA wasn't constantly fed new members eager for progressive rock), his page(s) would be as dead as Magellan's and Tormant Maxt's.
I'm pretty sure there were more people, but those are the most famous, as far as I recall.
Edited by CCVP - July 09 2012 at 21:01
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 21:00 |
"What is 'vanilla prog metal'?"
The worst kind.
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CCVP
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
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Posted: July 09 2012 at 21:04 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
"What is 'vanilla prog metal'?"
The worst kind. |
Wasn't the troll line some pages back?  
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 06:10 |
CCVP wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
A lot of people like Death, though, and I'm sure some would put them in their top ten bands. Many peope who dislike DT are fans of Death, so it makes sense that they would keep voting for them. You should have picked Torman Maxt, the most hated band on progarchives, instead.
EDIT - replying to Geoff, two people posted while I was still writing. |
Torman Maxt isn't so bad, actually. Too much blind hate towards them IMO because of the sh*tstorm one review caused some years ago.
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I haven't actually heard any of their stuff, I had just read reviews and heard people call them the "most hated band." I did notice that their latest release has a 3.5 rating or something; it seems like the only one people really hate is "The Problem of Pain, Part 1." |
Making a long story short, that is because some years ago (probably as way for M@X to make the site more profitable), bands could pay for a prime spot at the site's homepage. For some time that worked quite well and it was (in my opinion, let me be clear) a great breath of fresh air, specially regarding new bands.
Then Tormant Maxt jumped on that wagon for their now lowest rated album, Problem of Pain 1, and somebody s*at a huge 1 star review on the album, basically telling that is was the worst thing in the history of mankind. The guys kindly asked M@X to remove it at least as long as they were paying for the spot. Then there was an "outcry" and "accusations" of censorship and whatnot; instead of letting things cool down, the guys from Tormant Maxt fed the flame war that followed with tons of gallons of gasoline.
By that time, I was only lurking at the forums, possibly before I was a member, so I couldn't see everything (I think there was a lot happening behind the scenes), but that's what I recall of it.
They weren't the only ones to crap all over their fandom, though. Even though it happened before I was a member, I know that Trent Gardner, from Magellan, had some altercations in this forum and is quite disliked by some of the older members (most of whom don't browse here anymore for various reasons); Steven Wilson also had his problems with PA, if he wasn't so bloody brilliant (and if PA wasn't constantly fed new members eager for progressive rock), his page(s) would be as dead as Magellan's and Tormant Maxt's.
I'm pretty sure there were more people, but those are the most famous, as far as I recall.
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Torman Maxt were actually the first band to pay for the featured spot. I can see why it got so many 1 star reviews, I downloaded it last year and its got my first ever 1 star review, a painful experience to go through listening to that album. Vangough and Mono were more successful in the featured spots though. I've heard about that Magellan interview but have never been able to find it to read it for my self, I'd like to know what got everybody annoyed.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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CCVP
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 15 2007
Location: Vitória, Brasil
Status: Offline
Points: 7971
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 08:22 |
sleeper wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
A lot of people like Death, though, and I'm sure some would put them in their top ten bands. Many peope who dislike DT are fans of Death, so it makes sense that they would keep voting for them. You should have picked Torman Maxt, the most hated band on progarchives, instead.
EDIT - replying to Geoff, two people posted while I was still writing. |
Torman Maxt isn't so bad, actually. Too much blind hate towards them IMO because of the sh*tstorm one review caused some years ago.
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I haven't actually heard any of their stuff, I had just read reviews and heard people call them the "most hated band." I did notice that their latest release has a 3.5 rating or something; it seems like the only one people really hate is "The Problem of Pain, Part 1." |
Making a long story short, that is because some years ago (probably as way for M@X to make the site more profitable), bands could pay for a prime spot at the site's homepage. For some time that worked quite well and it was (in my opinion, let me be clear) a great breath of fresh air, specially regarding new bands.
Then Tormant Maxt jumped on that wagon for their now lowest rated album, Problem of Pain 1, and somebody s*at a huge 1 star review on the album, basically telling that is was the worst thing in the history of mankind. The guys kindly asked M@X to remove it at least as long as they were paying for the spot. Then there was an "outcry" and "accusations" of censorship and whatnot; instead of letting things cool down, the guys from Tormant Maxt fed the flame war that followed with tons of gallons of gasoline.
By that time, I was only lurking at the forums, possibly before I was a member, so I couldn't see everything (I think there was a lot happening behind the scenes), but that's what I recall of it.
They weren't the only ones to crap all over their fandom, though. Even though it happened before I was a member, I know that Trent Gardner, from Magellan, had some altercations in this forum and is quite disliked by some of the older members (most of whom don't browse here anymore for various reasons); Steven Wilson also had his problems with PA, if he wasn't so bloody brilliant (and if PA wasn't constantly fed new members eager for progressive rock), his page(s) would be as dead as Magellan's and Tormant Maxt's.
I'm pretty sure there were more people, but those are the most famous, as far as I recall.
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Torman Maxt were actually the first band to pay for the featured spot. I can see why it got so many 1 star reviews, I downloaded it last year and its got my first ever 1 star review, a painful experience to go through listening to that album. Vangough and Mono were more successful in the featured spots though.
I've heard about that Magellan interview but have never been able to find it to read it for my self, I'd like to know what got everybody annoyed.
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Yeah, I've got into Mono from that spot, one of the few post rock bands I actually enjoy.
As for Magellan, I think that interview was hidden by the admins in order to stop the flamewar/hate and avoid the possibility of legal action. I don't even know if that's really possible, but the US justice system is crazy, so you never know.
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tamijo
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Joined: January 06 2009
Location: Denmark
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 08:31 |
What an awful lot of feelings such words can provide. If you know what You like, you dont give a damn ! Sure Porcupine Tree, would be considered Vanilla, if you compare them to some Chinese prog band, playing Temple bells and singing backwards in a unik local dialect, but thats not the same as they are bad.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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colorofmoney91
Prog Reviewer
Joined: March 16 2008
Location: Biosphere
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Posted: July 10 2012 at 20:09 |
CCVP wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
"What is 'vanilla prog metal'?"
The worst kind. |
Wasn't the troll line some pages back? |
I'm a bit slow these days >_>
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