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I'm just about quarter of my way through Hans Joahim Storich's "Kleine Weltgeschichte der Philosophie". I've read Jostein Gaarder's "Sophie's World" earlier, but this is one is a more serious (and non-fiction) description of the history of philosophy. Worth a thread or two in non-music related probably later on...
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^I haven't read that one, but I found Bertrand Russell's "History of Western Philosophy" quite amusing.
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the one where he says all the modern western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato's work? LOL gotta read that one.
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Thanks for bringing up Bertrand Russell, as I plan to get something by him, but don't know where to start.  I think I may grab a copy of the one you mention.
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the one where he says all the modern western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato's work? LOL gotta read that one.


Sounds familiar, Storich is a bit less direct (so far), but Plato is pretty much the 'root of all evil'. Wink
In more recent times Kant is very influential, but he summarized a lot of Plato and Plato followers material. a thread already? Big smile
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^I haven't read that one, but I found Bertrand Russell's "History of Western Philosophy" quite amusing.
I had to read that for a Philosophy classLOL
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

 
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

the one where he says all the modern western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato's work? LOL gotta read that one.


Sounds familiar, Storich is a bit less direct (so far), but Plato is pretty much the 'root of all evil'. Wink
In more recent times Kant is very influential, but he summarized a lot of Plato and Plato followers material. a thread already? Big smile
 
well actually the quote belongs to Alfred Whitehead, shame on me! Embarrassed
the connection i made was not aleatory as he was a contemporary of Bertrand Russel with whom he shared the strong interest in maths and with whom he co-wrote a book ("Principia Mathematica"). still his fame comes from that certain quote. myself i haven't read anything by him.
 
i don't think there's a need of a philosophy thread on the PA forums. Geek we are geeky and snobby enough with prog alone LOL
 
you did mention my two favourite philosophers - plato and kant. i'm strongly in love with epistemology (i don't know if that's the correct word in english) and they both debated on the possibility of knowledge and cognition - at least that's the side of their work that turns me on. my favourite plato dialogue is "Phaedrus".
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I still have to strongly enter the philosophy dignity of this earth's art and history.
     

I'll probably start with Nietzsche.

any recommendations btw, andu?
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I still have to strongly enter the philosophy dignity of this earth's art and history.
     

I'll probably start with Nietzsche.

any recommendations btw, andu?


I've yet to read it, but "Thus Spake Zarathustra" by Nietzsche (not Jack Nietzsche!) could be a good place to start.  You can find it for free on the Internet, or you could get yourself a Romanian translation, I suspect (unless you can understand German).


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^I've read Thus Spake Zarathustra, but hardly understood anything in it. Confused Has that Zarathustra got anything to do with the Persian prophet?
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I've no idea, I've not read it. LOL

I do have it on my computer though, so one day I will read it.
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I still have to strongly enter the philosophy dignity of this earth's art and history.
     

I'll probably start with Nietzsche.

any recommendations btw, andu?
 
well i reccomend you to keep away from Nietzsche for a while and also i would suggest a slow and easy introduction with some of the books of Constantin NOICA.
 
Douăzeci şi şapte de trepte ale realului - this one is about the way philosophers have tried in history to come up with conceptual explanations of the world by using the famous "cathegories" (Plato, Aristotle, Kant, the modern science). it's short, easy readable, an enjoyable afternoon worth of reading.
 
Şase maladii ale spiritului contemporan  - this is also a short and synthetic survey on the european culture's ages (regarding arts, philosophy, religious thinking). he uses his own criteria to show a certain kind of evolution, which is both instructive and captivating.
 
De caelo  - this is an (again short and enjoyable) essay where he debates two contrasting types of thought: the one concerned with giving rational basis to the process of knowledge (plato, st. augustin, descartes, kant) and the one concerned giving conceptual basis to it's own vision of the world (aristotle, st. thomas). there's one thing that make me depressive when i think about this book - he wrote it when he was just a little older than me, why the hell can't i be that smart? CryLOL
 
Jurnal de idei  - you can browse through this posthumous release consisting of charming disparate thoughts that can get you acquainted with the philosophers' laboratory.
 
i'll have to praise him for his great clarity of expression and thought - it's so easy to follow and he makes you understand the way other philosophers think. also, he always puts his ideas in the context of the history of philosophy - thus reading his books is always instructive. however, keep away from his "heavier" books. they're still beyond my "powers", too. the ones i mentioned are easy to spot in libraries and in old-book shops, also.
if you agree on my proposals i'd be glad to exchange feedback with you. Smile
 
 
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Im' useless regarding theoretical literature. From time to time, I try to focus on aspect of semiotics, but I found it to be unpleasant. this is highly irregular, off course, being, as I am, interested in artistic production.
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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:



Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I still have to strongly enter the philosophy dignity of this earth's art and history.
     

I'll probably start with Nietzsche.

any recommendations btw, andu?
I've yet to read it, but "Thus Spake Zarathustra" by Nietzsche (not Jack Nietzsche!) could be a good place to start.  You can find it for free on the Internet, or you could get yourself a Romanian translation, I suspect (unless you can understand German).


I think there are romanian-translated philosophy in plenty forms, thanks.
    
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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I still have to strongly enter the philosophy dignity of this earth's art and history.      [IMG]smileys/smiley4.gif" align=middle> I'll probably start with Nietzsche. any recommendations btw, andu?

 

well i reccomend you to keep away from Nietzsche for a while and also i would suggest a slow and easy introduction with some of the books of Constantin NOICA.

 

Douăzeci şi şapte de trepte ale realului - this one is about the way philosophers have tried in history to come up with conceptual explanations of the world by using the famous "cathegories" (Plato, Aristotle, Kant, the modern science). it's short, easy readable, an enjoyable afternoon worth of reading.

 

Şase maladii ale spiritului contemporan  - this is also a short and synthetic survey on the european culture's ages (regarding arts, philosophy, religious thinking). he uses his own criteria to show a certain kind of evolution, which is both instructive and captivating.

 

De caelo  - this is an (again short and enjoyable) essay where he debates two contrasting types of thought: the one concerned with giving rational basis to the process of knowledge (plato, st. augustin, descartes, kant) and the one concerned giving conceptual basis to it's own vision of the world (aristotle, st. thomas). there's one thing that make me depressive when i think about this book - he wrote it when he was just a little older than me, why the hell can't i be that smart? [IMG]height=17 alt=Cry src="smileys/smiley19.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>[IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

 

Jurnal de idei  - you can browse through this posthumous release consisting of charming disparate thoughts that can get you acquainted with the philosophers' laboratory.

 

i'll have to praise him for his great clarity of expression and thought - it's so easy to follow and he makes you understand the way other philosophers think. also, he always puts his ideas in the context of the history of philosophy - thus reading his books is always instructive. however, keep away from his "heavier" books. they're still beyond my "powers", too. the ones i mentioned are easy to spot in libraries and in old-book shops, also.

if you agree on my proposals i'd be glad to exchange feedback with you. [IMG]height=17 alt=Smile src="smileys/smiley1.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

 

 


okay, thanks.

I'll probably start on these much later, I still have to go through many reads and many tastes.

     
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

okay, thanks.

I'll probably start on these much later, I still have to go through many reads and many tastes.

 


i know that feeling too, life is too short Ouch

anyway, keep up! Smile
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mmm... my copy of "War of time" is not that cute as this one:

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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

 
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

the one where he says all the modern western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato's work? LOL gotta read that one.


Sounds familiar, Storich is a bit less direct (so far), but Plato is pretty much the 'root of all evil'. Wink
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i don't think there's a need of a philosophy thread on the PA forums. Geek we are geeky and snobby enough with prog alone LOL
 
you did mention my two favourite philosophers - plato and kant. i'm strongly in love with epistemology (i don't know if that's the correct word in english) and they both debated on the possibility of knowledge and cognition - at least that's the side of their work that turns me on. my favourite plato dialogue is "Phaedrus".


I still have to read Phaedrus, but the name reminds me of that other fine couple of books, Robert Pirsig's "Zen and the art of motor cycle maintenance" and "Lila".

As far as geeky is concerned: we could start "PhilosophyArchives - the other PA" LOL
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