Round 1 Rome Bracket: Uriah Heep v. TMV

Well, I seem to remember a time when the "progginess" (a word I hate btw) of Uriah Heep was questioned. Personally, I find them pleasant but somewhat repetitive. TMV, on the other hand, clicked immediately with me - though I am well aware that they are not for everyone. Anyway, the point I wanted to make in my previous post has not so much to do with TMV as with the alarming trend among prog fans to play it safe. This is one of the reasons why many genuinely exciting modern progressive acts shun the traditional "prog" circuits, and get a lot of exposure at events that have a wider target audience.

Raff wrote: Well, I seem to remember a time when the "progginess" (a word I hate btw) of Uriah Heep was questioned. Personally, I find them pleasant but somewhat repetitive. TMV, on the other hand, clicked immediately with me - though I am well aware that they are not for everyone. Anyway, the point I wanted to make in my previous post has not so much to do with TMV as with the alarming trend among prog fans to play it safe. This is one of the reasons why many genuinely exciting modern progressive acts shun the traditional "prog" circuits, and get a lot of exposure at events that have a wider target audience.

rogerthat wrote: Raff wrote: (snip) This is one of the reasons why many genuinely exciting modern progressive acts shun the traditional "prog" circuits, and get a lot of exposure at events that have a wider target audience. (snip) If what you have described in the last sentence is happening, it can only be a good thing in my view and will help prog, in the spirit that was implied in the 70s, get a fresh lease of life.  What prog music needs is exposure to more open minded listeners again that are not too specific in their needs as the retro-loving crowd can be.

Hugs to you as well 

UH are a nice enough band I enjoy listening to when they come on but I remember a time I actively reached for them. Whereas I don't really like TMV. I have one of their albums Frances The Mute and it hasn't connected at all.

rogerthat wrote: @Kati: Actually I don't think she is saying that.  What she said (that their progginess was questioned once on this website) is true; it did happen.  As I said, it simply reflects how much this forum has changed.  In the fashion of old proggy-fogeys, "you had to be there".    Seriously, this once super-elitist forum that used to sneer at additions like, even, Radiohead voting Heep over TMV reflects a great deal of change.

Thank you! This is exactly what I meant. And, as I said before, this has nothing to do with TMV specifically, but with an attitude that both you, Ian, and I have noticed in our fellow prog fans.

I think most would agree that Salisbury by itself seals the deal.  Well...again, it's just difficult to explain how this came to be questioned on this forum at a certain point but that is just how things happened.  It is a fashion now to claim PA would add just about any interesting/weird sounding rock band to the database but I seem to remember a time when almost nothing barring the chosen few like KC, GG, Genesis, Yes was above questioning.  There were threads questioning whether PF was prog.  A thread by a prog metal team collab suggesting prog metal is not prog rock, based on very meticulous analysis done earlier by Cert1fied.  More than anything, I am simply bemused by these developments .  I have been active on this forum for at least 6 years and I never paid particular attention to these changes.  Guess it takes a thread like this to throw a spotlight on just how much things have changed.  

Dedicate this to everyone David Byron - Weep In Silence // Uriah Heep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8O57RRhNcc&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=11

rogerthat wrote:  I have been active on this forum for at least 6 years and I never paid particular attention to these changes.  Guess it takes a thread like this to throw a spotlight on just how much things have changed.

Kati wrote: HAHAHA Brilliant this!!!!!!! whooheeeee hahaha that bass silence bit after the drums with vocals is wow! Ah !!!! xxxx thank you  big hug Oh wow loving this and I am glad they are very clever with their pauses while not sounding like liquid tension experiment. Dang the percussion is brilliant!