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Gerinski 
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 Topic: Post-Prog tag: should we take it seriously?
Posted: January 12 2015 at 06:05 |
I had seen the term Post-Prog used occasionally to refer to bands like Muse, Anathema or Porcupine Tree, but I never took it much seriously. I see now in the bandcamp page of Dream The Electric Sheep that they tag themselves as Post-Prog (among a few other tags).
Is this term really becoming widespread in the music community? If it starts to become widely used, even by the bands themselves, should PA need to adapt itself?
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 07:02 |
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I'm not sure we should. All these extra boxes muddy the waters. Maybe if we had album tagging it would fly - otherwise no.
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 07:05 |
Pretty much everything released after circa 1979 could be deemed 'post prog' methinks...I mean do you take the term 'post baroque' seriously? 
Edited by ExittheLemming - January 12 2015 at 07:17
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 07:20 |
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 07:35 |
neo-post-experimental-aor-rock iften features elements of indiependent/alternative-new wave, noise-minimnslisme-industrial (alternative)-house music. with strong tendancess to also include no wave-post rock-free jazz/nu jazz inntrykk.. Mew is a good example 
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 07:35 |
A friend of mine was talking to a record distributor about a prog band from Ireland.
"What kind of prog are they?" Friend shrugs. "Irish prog?" The reply came back sadly: "We don't have a category for that."
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 08:11 |
PA = Proto Avant 
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 08:12 |
Everything from 1980 up until now is Post Prog to me.
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 08:17 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 10:51 |
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I thought those bands were called 'Nu Prog'?
I can't keep up with these tags anymore...it's maddening...(shoots myself)
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 11:00 |
Yeah that's right - I remember that one as well 'Nu-Prog'  I rather prefer Nutella-Prog myself.
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 11:17 |
 zravkapt wrote:
I thought those bands were called 'Nu Prog'?
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Yeah, me too. That's why this site can't go for every new label that happens to be popular.
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 11:37 |
Thanks to all. Yeah, I quite agree with most of the comments and I'm the first not happy with new tags and sub-genres, but I mean, if it's the musicians themselves who start tagging themselves as Post-Prog such as is the case for Dreaming The Electric Sheep, I guess that the term might stick eventually. In the pre-internet age most bands hated tags, they just did the music they felt and they did not like being tagged as this or that, but the internet world with bandcamp, spotify, facebook and such stuff is forcing the musicians themselves to tag their own music for search / like-contents functionalities etc. This is a new aspect of modern music which might deserve its own discussion BTW. |
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Rock My Wife Can Listen To
Rock I Should Listen to Alone
Music that has more horns and pianos than guitars
Anything with Violins
Comedy
Those are the genres in my personal collection.
Edited by HolyMoly - January 12 2015 at 11:59
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 12:33 |
On a serious enough note - and why would you be too serious here, this is PA, and we're talking about a particularly bad label - "post" almost always denotes the experimental, particularly artistic side of a genre. Post-Punk and Post-Hardcore. Post-Rock, to an extent. I even have used the term Post-Emo for some recent bands in that genre, which has the extra bonus that the genre is almost dead. Of course the problem is that the term was brewed up in spite of the fact that most of the genres in question were alive and kicking. And the other big example of a post, Post-Grunge, was hardly experimental; quite the opposite, in fact.
Now, we know prog - at least if we use it to denote all progressive music - is alive enough, and is already used to denote a particularly artistic and often experimental grouping of styles... so "Post-Prog" is about as redundant as saying Sahara Desert.
Edited by Lear'sFool - January 12 2015 at 12:34
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 13:38 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Rock My Wife Can Listen To
Rock I Should Listen to Alone
Music that has more horns and pianos than guitars
Anything with Violins
Comedy
Those are the genres in my personal collection.
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What happens when you get a comedy album your wife can listen to?
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 14:03 |
sleeper wrote:
HolyMoly wrote:
Rock My Wife Can Listen To
Rock I Should Listen to Alone
Music that has more horns and pianos than guitars
Anything with Violins
Comedy
Those are the genres in my personal collection.
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What happens when you get a comedy album your wife can listen to?
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We brace ourselves for an hour of laughs, as we put on a new album of food-oriented jokes from Jim Gaffigan. (Hot Pockets!)
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 14:52 |
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The said tag should be taken seriously ONLY if it fits a reality, if there's a given definition of what post-progressive rock is supposed to be. Otherwise, it could appear as a gimmick and a form of advertisement: "Try something new, try something fresh... Try... POST-PROGRESSIVE!"
For my part, I tend to think that such a label only exists in the minds of people who don't know very well the history of rock music in general and of progressive rock in particular: to keep the comparison with punk and post-punk, one could say that the Rock In Opposition movement is the "post-progressive" stuff.
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Posted: January 12 2015 at 15:51 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yeah that's right - I remember that one as well 'Nu-Prog'I rather prefer Nutella-Prog myself. |
Indeed, as Nutella also happens to be one of Italy's biggest exports ! Anyway, I think the "post-prog" tag is nothing more than a gimmick, used by a particular label to denote its mostly soporific output  . My personal definition for a lot of modern, song-based progressive rock is the "new frontier of prog" - which is probably not as sexy as post-prog, but at least works for me .
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