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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 02:12
I'm just going to list my 10 favourite albums post 2000


IQ - Frequency 
Muse - Absolution
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Tangerine Dream - Purgatorio
Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret
Kate Bush - Aerial
Par Lindh Project - Veni Vidi Vici
Neal Morse - One
Anathema - Weather Systems
Steve Wilson - Grace Before Drowning

includes some well trodden sub genres but I think those albums do make a statement. For instance the unusual medieval music on disc two The Inconsolable Secret and the nice use of female classical/opera singers on TD's Purgatorio really hit me. Par Lindh also crafted a very original modern symph prog classic that bares no resemblance to ELP or Yes.  Kate Bush returned with a typical quirky mix of songs but little that was just a retread. New bands like Muse and Anathema have freshened things up and I've picked my favourite albums by them. Morse blew off the cobwebs from religious music completely. Lastly IQ got the one thing they always lacked - a truly awesome drummer in Andy Edwards. Province Of The King is truly scary in all the best ways. No plodding here.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 03:12
1. Echolyn - Echolyn
2. Part the Second - Maudlin of the Well
3. English Electric (Part One) - Big Big Train
4. Heliotians - Deluge Grander
5. K.A. - Magma
6. Blemmebeya - Akt
7. In Extremis - Days between Stations
8. A Time of Day - Anekdoten
9. Sola Scriptura - Neal Morse
X. To Shatter All Accord - Discipline
 
Others worth a place in this list:
Gravity - Anekdoten
In a Cold Embrace - Battlestations
You Have a Chance - Camelias Garden
August in the Urals - Deluge Grander
Second Sound - Druckfarben
Mei - Echolyn
Brighter Skies - FreddeGredde
Safe in Conformity - Hamadryad
Fear of a Blank Planet - Porcupine Tree
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 03:32
I may forget a few that were right on the turn of the century, but these are the ones that really hit me the hardest.


Exivious
Pain of Salvation - Be
Bondage Fruit VI
Unexpect - In a Flesh Aquarium
Virus - Carheart
Mirthkon - Vehicle
Panzerballet - Star Stücke
Koenjihyakkei - Angher Shispa
Animals as Leaders
Pochakaite Malko - Laya
Canvas Solaris - Penumbra Diffuse
Haken - Mountain




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 07:53
Hi,
 
Someone will have to explain to me how a comparison of 30 years of music to a different 15 years of music, is a valid comparison, and supposedly to make a distinction that one is better than the other!
 
I'm OK with looking for and findind trends, but the comparison is silly and nothing but a beatov for folks with nothing better to do?
 
While I appreciate new fans and all that, and the site succeeds in that area, it is stuff like this that makes the whole of the work get thrown under the carpet ... how will a silly comparison like that EVER help elevate the work of many artists over 50 years? No wonder so many folks in academia think that progressive is sh*t ... you don't think any better of it?
 
Yeah ... we all better go back to diaper days ... it's all crap and some of the fans are worse!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 08:22
Who crapped in your pint? It's just a bit of fun to look at great albums in the last 15 years. Nothing more significant than that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 09:38
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Who crapped in your pint? It's just a bit of fun to look at great albums in the last 15 years. Nothing more significant than that.
 
No, I believe Mosh prefers flitting from table to table, crapping in other people's pints. Which I guess is the  classic definition of "party pooper". Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 10:21
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
Someone will have to explain to me how a comparison of 30 years of music to a different 15 years of music, is a valid comparison, and supposedly to make a distinction that one is better than the other!



Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

First of all, I apologize if there is already a thread about the same topic. I tried to run a 

search - to no avail. 

As the past 15 years have seen a resurgence of progressive rock (and progressive music in general), I am 

curious to know which albums PA members consider as milestones of this particular period, in any of the 

subgenres listed here. Personally, I have a few ideas, but I will have to think it over a bit, as there has 

been so much great music released since the beginning of the century that is often hard to choose.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 10:38
Here's a really crowded top 15 of sorts:

Guapo- Five Suns (Black Oni, Elixirs)
2 Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Horizons (Book M - and everything else)
3 Vektor - Black Future (Outer Isolation) 
4 Non Credo - Impropera
5 Kayo Dot- Blue Lambency Downward (Coffins on Io, Choirs of the Eye)
6 Radiohead Kid A (Amnesiac)
7 Woven Hand - Mosaic (Consider the Birds, Blush Music)
8 Jono El Grande - Neo Dada (Phantom Stimulance)
9 Elephant9 - Dodovoodoo (Walk The Nile)
10 Umberto - From the Grave (Prophesy of the Black Widow)
11 Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ (Yanqui U.X.O.)
12 Dungen - 4
13 Aranis - II
14 The Styrenes - In C
15 Die Anarchistische Abendunterhaltung! - Tub Gurnard Goodness 

Honorable mention to 65Daysofstatic, Sinoia Caves, Zombi, Boredoms, Matt Berry, Kosmischer Läufer...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 10:38
Classic Moshkito, out to ruin everybody elses fun by complaining about something that doesnt exist
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 10:49
To elaborate a bit on that Mosh: would you be kind enough to read the original post before you go off on a tangent?
Raff was trying to shed some light on the past 15 years of music - trying to get people excited about the new stuff - giving the new kids on the block a chance to be recognised. That is, at least, what I get from the opening post. Has nothing to do about comparing one era of music to another one and finding out which is the bestWacko That's nonsense. It's about appreciating new music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 14:44
I always wanted to make a poll of Moshkito's most bizarre posts...

This one might be in the top 5.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 15:19
As I am a lady, and quite tired after a day at work, I will refrain from reacting the way I would really like to. Next time someone calls me crap and tells me to go back to diaper days, I am going to tell them what I truly think of them. For crying out loud....Every little bit of innocent fun (which, in this particular case, is a way to give some bands and artists the exposure they deserve) has to become the subject of a rant for some peopleConfused.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 16:09
It is best to ignore the child throwing a tantrum on the supermarket floor. Drawing more attention to it feeds the beast. Sooner or later they grow tired and cry themselves out. 

It's a good subject that is worthy of discussion. The site and forum are here for sharing. So thank you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 16:10
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Someone will have to explain to me how a comparison of 30 years of music to a different 15 years of music, is a valid comparison, and supposedly to make a distinction that one is better than the other!
 
I'm OK with looking for and findind trends, but the comparison is silly and nothing but a beatov for folks with nothing better to do?
 
While I appreciate new fans and all that, and the site succeeds in that area, it is stuff like this that makes the whole of the work get thrown under the carpet ... how will a silly comparison like that EVER help elevate the work of many artists over 50 years? No wonder so many folks in academia think that progressive is sh*t ... you don't think any better of it?
 
Yeah ... we all better go back to diaper days ... it's all crap and some of the fans are worse!
 
Tongue
 
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Ok, normally, I let this stuff slide, my mantra is that it's typically easier to simply not say anything.  Every once in a while though, I feel the irrational need to chime in.  This is one of those cases.
 
Did you read the initial post or just skip right here to complain.  I'm fairly certain that the original post asked for great albums of this century, not your opinion on how modern music sucks and will never hold a candle to the revered oldies. 
 
Is it really that much to ask that you be respectful of other people's opinions rather than dismissing them as crap?  Is your opinion really the only valid one?  Even worse, if I read your post correctly, then all fans of new music are worse than crap?  That's what it sounds like.
 
As I said, normally I don't say anything, but I'm grandstanding here for a purpose.  When a revered member of the site comes back after a long hiatus (Yep, talking about you here Raff), someone that has contributed a ton of time and effort to this site, I'm not going to stand by idly and let you demoralize her or any of the other members here that enjoy modern music.

I don't think it's too much to ask to be respectful of other people's opinion.  There is no reason to be insulting as every opinion is as valid as yours. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2015 at 16:25
The goal of hijacking the thread has already been accomplished.  Can we just re-engage in the original subject?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2015 at 01:55
That's one of Moshkito's funnier posts to be fair. None of us are worthy , we just do not understand music at all. Actually I don't care if I understand music at all in the least . I just like to enjoy music and talk about it. I just hope 'it' is not offended by my ignoranceSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2015 at 03:15
Order isn't too particular:

SMPTe - Transatlantic
Unfold the Future - The Flower Kings
One - Neal Morse
V - Spock's Beard
Frequency - IQ
The Raven That Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) - Steven Wilson
Deadwing - Porcupine Tree
Shadowlands - Glass Hammer
The Shaming of the True - Kevin Gilbert
Echolyn - Echolyn
The Power to Believe - King Crimson
To Watch the Storms - Steve Hackett
Selective Memory - Témpano
Milliontown - Frost*
Sleeping in Traffic Pt. 1 - Beardfish
The Underfall Yard - Big Big Train
Clivages - Univers Zéro
A Child in the Mirror - Ciccada
Kublai - Accordo Dei Contrari
Last Epic - A.C.T
The Water Road - Thieves' Kitchen
Return to the Origin - Gert Emmens & Ruud Heij
Unrecorded Beam - Billy Bottle and the Multiple
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2015 at 08:44
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

That's one of Moshkito's funnier posts to be fair. None of us are worthy , we just do not understand music at all. Actually I don't care if I understand music at all in the least . I just like to enjoy music and talk about it. I just hope 'it' is not offended by my ignoranceSmile

 
Yeah , and isn't it even more interesting when it happens to like to enjoy music that you didn't like before? Smile
 
About the thread, I'm still willing to check out the bands suggested by Raff in the site http://www.altrock.it (http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96334&KW=ARANIS&PN=7), btw every new day the time for me badly seems to get even shorter, it's sort of damn annoying always having a 'poor' Internet and now having to cope with almost 10 days without it ShockedCry. Now I'm searching for a professional and liable internet provider - unfortunately this is still a common reality in my country...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2015 at 10:14
Alamaailman Vasarat - Valta
Guapo - History Of The Visitation
Secret Chiefs 3 - Book Of Horizons
Battles - Mirrored
Giraffes?Giraffes! - More Skin With Milk-Mouth
Magyar Posse - Random Avenger
Tortoise - Standards
Chrome Hoof - Pre-Emptive False Rapture
Jaga Jazzist - One-Armed Bandit
Zombi - Spirit Animal
Labirinto di Specchi - Hanblecheya
Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
The Mars Volta - Amputechture
Pelican - City Of Echoes
Unexpect - In A Flesh Aquarium
Tool - Lateralus

Magma America Great Make Again
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2015 at 10:27
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:


Tortoise - Standards
Forgot about that one. Might actually be my Tortoise-favorite s well.
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