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Poll Question: Which was the first real concept LP: SP or DOFP?
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Answering the question literally, it should be noted that Nirvana's Story of Simon Simopath was released a month before DOFP and is, without doubt, a concept album.
 
Since we are supposed to be talking about prog rock on this site then the likes of Vivaldi and West Side story would not qualify (though if Miles Davis or Pentangle count as rock then I suppose anything can).
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Vivaldi - The Four Seasons (Still more conceptual than Sgt. Pepper, I think)
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As others have said, Sgt Pepper is not a concept album. It was going to be (there was talk of a concept about life in Liverpool, hence Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane which were originally going to be on the album) but The Beatles (mainly Lennon, I believe) lost interest in it.
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Which was the first vaguely-a-concept concept album?

Dust Bowl Ballads  by Woody Guthrie (1940)
Come Fly With Me by Frank Sinatra (1958)

Obviously DOFP is the first concept album.

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Sometimes one may feel obliged to vote in favour of Days of Future Passed. This is such an occasion...
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i vote DoFP because it's basically an orchestral soundtrack to a normal day of this world; Sgt. Pepper had an initial concept but was abandoned right from the get go before it was even thought up of by Macca. so, the Moody Blues got this one I'm afraid.
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Without picking nits from the prog-rock holy bible's definition of progressive canon, I would say DoFP. Sgt. Pepper has the album cover, 2 songs where the theme recurs and a third that is introduced as a Sgt. Pepper associate, Billy Shears (A Little Help from My Friends). Other than that, the songs on Pepper are not unified in any way, whether stylistically or lyrically. Not even an allusion thrown in to loosely link them.
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I guess you mean 'first prog concept album' (because otherwise others like the musicals West Side Story or Hair were earlier concept albums, not to mention classical themed albums as Holst's The Planets or all the Operas).
And Days Of Future Past is not a prog-rock album in my book (a couple of orchestrations and recurrent themes do not make prog-rock, otherwise the aformentioned musicals would be prog-rock albums as they had also both). So you have my answer.
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Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Like everyone else, I go with Days.  McCartney wanted Sgt. Peppers to be a concept, but the band quickly abandoned the project and we got a mix of an unfulfilled project with various songs.  Could this be one of the first signs of the tensions that eventually broke them up?  The Beatles were always about the songs anyway, and a whole concept album was something they had a very difficult time with.  The concept of Days may be a simple one, the passing of the times of day, but they pursued it successfully.  Both are classic five-star albums.
I like this post in particular. I always felt that SPLHCB was at least the start of Lennon's disinterest in the group and also felt  that tensions actually surfaced after the debacle with the Maharishi in India, as was widely reported. Deep thinking as usual, Mr. Progosopher.
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

I guess you mean 'first prog concept album' (because otherwise others like the musicals West Side Story or Hair were earlier concept albums, not to mention classical themed albums as Holst's The Planets or all the Operas).
And Days Of Future Past is not a prog-rock album in my book (a couple of orchestrations and recurrent themes do not make prog-rock, otherwise the aformentioned musicals would be prog-rock albums as they had also both). So you have my answer.

funny - i was going to mention musical soundtracks - but that's kind of cheating
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I guess you mean 'first prog concept album' (because otherwise others like the musicals West Side Story or Hair were earlier concept albums, not to mention classical themed albums as Holst's The Planets or all the Operas).
And Days Of Future Past is not a prog-rock album in my book (a couple of orchestrations and recurrent themes do not make prog-rock, otherwise the aformentioned musicals would be prog-rock albums as they had also both). So you have my answer.


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 Paul McCartney regarded Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as The Beatles' Freak Out![32] However, Zappa criticized the Beatles, as he felt they were "only in it for the money".[33]
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Points: 46828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2015 at 16:49
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I think concept albums are overratedSmileTongueWink

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Points: 46828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2015 at 16:41
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

 
Which came first: 1966 Or 1967?
 
Vote: () 1966.
 
Vote: () 1967.
 
 


1967 of course  ... anything prior to Sgt Peppers doesn't count LOL That album changed rock music forever Clap
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