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    Posted: August 14 2005 at 22:14
OK, someone please help me here. It seems like nobody likes this song from Genesis' Selling England By The Pound. People view it as the only weak track on the album. Somebody tell me why. I happen to love this song. It confuses me. Why does everybody (well, almost everybody) dislike this song?
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It sounds like something left over from FGTR. Not bad I guess. 
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I love this song.  It is a short breather between epics on SEbtP.  It offers a mood change from the previous song and is part of the concept of the album (this particular song representing deception). 

In the early days, the band wrote songs like this to serve as breaks in their records (which I think makes the albums more diverse and therefor more progressive.....it's always nice to have a short love song amidst 10-minute "epics").  Between songs, Peter usually had to change costumes at the live shows, so Phil and the others would handle vocals on one of these short songs while Peter changed (More Fool Me, For Absent Friends, Harlequin).  So there is actually a legitimate purpose to these songs.

I think that it is snobby when reviewers take points off rating of this album only because of More Fool Me  and  I Know What I Like.  They are not simply 'poppy' commercial songs, but crucial parts of the record as a whole.
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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 22:34
Though pop isn't my favourite type of music, I think songs like "More Fool Me" provide a nice balance "amidst the 10-minute epics," as Fearless said. There's nothing wrong with songs like "More Fool Me," just as long as they're done well by muscians who know what they're doing.
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Points: 999 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 22:53
OK. Thank you. But now that I've heard from some people that like/don't mind the song, how about those of you that dislike it?
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:02
it's ok. if SEBTP didn't have it or "i know what i like," i'd give the album a higher rating. 
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It's better than "Your Own Special Way". I don't really mind it.
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:23

It's boring and out of place in a Gabriel era album, maybe it's right place would be  on Invisible Touch for those who like soft adult ballads.

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Heh, I don't get it, I guess. I happen to like the song a lot. Doesn't seem out of place at all, to me, that is.
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Points: 3047 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:36
I Like It

It's hardly filler when one considers its a 3 minute song on a 53 minute album - more like an added bonus
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:36

That's the beauty of music and musical taste, it's not the same in all of us, I hate that song, IMO represents the first step Genesis took towards the awful 3 men era.

But again, it's only my opinion and I find it totally out of place in Selling England, if it was in Invisible Touch I woukldn't worry because I already don't like that album and don't listen it (I have a new sealed LP that my sis gave me one birthday) so I wouldn't need to skip that song every toime I play SEBTP.

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Points: 999 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:38

Very true Ivan, I agree. Music would be very boring if we all had the same tastes.
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I love that song. It seems to be a fairly straight forward love song, but it pleasantly surprises you and shifts gears at the end. Clever little song.
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The song is total crap, i have nothing against good pop songs, but that song is not good. your taste must stink if you think its good, have you ever heard the Beatles?
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 06:14

^ What a ******!

I happen to love the song and think it fits into SEBTP perfectly! It is certainly nothing like anything on Abacab and has the sound of the era it was written in! Great!
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Points: 2098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 06:32

More Fool Me sounds out of place on the SEBTP album....a lilting folksy instrumental in its place would have strengthened the album's theme.  Instead, we're treated to a peek into the future....not a bad song, the harmonic vocals are quite nice, it just doesn't fit in among such heavyweight compositions. 

BTW, the poster who mentioned the costume change and the need for an instrumental or second vocalist to cover Peter's absence sounds spot on....can be the only excuse for the existence of such pap (man, I love that word...pap).
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 07:53
Originally posted by Fearless Fearless wrote:

Between songs, Peter usually had to change costumes at the live shows, so Phil and the others would handle vocals on one of these short songs while Peter changed (More Fool Me, For Absent Friends, Harlequin).


An interesting theory, but on the Genesis 'Archives' box set, Gabriel is doing the backing vocals for More Fool Me.... mind you, he could have been doing these from backstage, whilst hopping about getting out of a frock & trying not to trip over the fox's head (there's a mental image for you).

Personally, I cannot stand the song, I think it grates against the rest of the album, but this is only my own humble opinion.

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Points: 176 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2005 at 08:35

yanns-netsnjfan: can you tell me what did you insert under your avatar, i would like to have "recently songs" too (i have the account on the audioscrobbler). thank you

anyway more fool me is not bad song but try to compare that to others songs in the gabe era

 
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