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Topic: 3 Pink Floyd albums - part 4 Posted: May 10 2015 at 22:35 |
those are my 3 favorite PF albums, I cannot vote here. xxxxx
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Posted: May 10 2015 at 22:31 |
uduwudu wrote:
Animals is a fantastic album, albeit the most badly produced - not heard the most recent master, just going by my '90s era Jap CD.
The Final Cut I used to dislike. Not now though. It's not exactly an engaging or immediate listen but tehre are some fine tunes on there. Though the period nature of the content may date it the easist. Which is probably why it opens in a 1940s theme rather than a rock idea. Really it's a pre rock, post war prequel to...
The Wall. What an album. Overrated? How is that decided? When it's too popular? If I listen to the radio (I don't) I may hear too much. As a lyrical narrative it works from the start to the end. The musical highlights are many and varied. It has Comfortably Numb. It translates to tributes and school productions. A huge concept on many levels but always comes back to The Individual (like Yes' art work on Going For The One) or 2112 by Rush. Great in concert, great movie. Never mind the politics, the results are just fantastic, that is really what I think...
| About the Final Cut, I might not place it very high among my favourite Floyd albums, but indeed it's got some killer songs that I love... and then as a whole it works very fine indeed too, it flows very nicely and works together very well. I still think that they should have included The Heroes Return with parts 1&2 together, though... that way it's among my favourite songs from the album... but the way it's presented in the album, with only part 1, it's too short and sounds incomplete and just leaves me frustrated. Really, if this song was included as such, the whole album would have benefitted (and even more on the last re-release with When The Tigers Broke Free included in the album too).
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Posted: May 10 2015 at 22:27 |
charles_ryder wrote:
Indeed "The Wall" is a great album. And I think this is definitely prog album. "Animals: has some punk intentions, not clearly prog.
| Oh well, I see more prog on Animals than Punk, that's for sure. No Punk Song would have reached the 10 min mark, much less the 17 min one. Perhaps because of the agressiveness of the music, but still, prog can be agressive too. I also find more of a prog aproach on Animals than on The Wall. I still love The Wall, though, brilliant album and brilliant concept and all... Animals is, along with Wish you Were Here, my favourite album from the band (though usually, if I have to choose, I'll go with WYWH just a step above Animals).
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Posted: May 10 2015 at 14:50 |
Indeed "The Wall" is a great album. And I think this is definitely prog album. "Animals: has some punk intentions, not clearly prog.
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Posted: May 10 2015 at 02:16 |
Animals is a fantastic album, albeit the most badly produced - not heard the most recent master, just going by my '90s era Jap CD.
The Final Cut I used to dislike. Not now though. It's not exactly an engaging or immediate listen but tehre are some fine tunes on there. Though the period nature of the content may date it the easist. Which is probably why it opens in a 1940s theme rather than a rock idea. Really it's a pre rock, post war prequel to...
The Wall. What an album. Overrated? How is that decided? When it's too popular? If I listen to the radio (I don't) I may hear too much. As a lyrical narrative it works from the start to the end. The musical highlights are many and varied. It has Comfortably Numb. It translates to tributes and school productions. A huge concept on many levels but always comes back to The Individual (like Yes' art work on Going For The One) or 2112 by Rush. Great in concert, great movie. Never mind the politics, the results are just fantastic, that is really what I think...
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Posted: May 09 2015 at 23:06 |
charles_ryder wrote:
I am surprising. "The Wall" is not so popular here?!
| Well, against "Animals" in a prog forum... indeed it had a very slim chance.
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Posted: May 09 2015 at 15:22 |
Animals, by miles.
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Posted: May 09 2015 at 14:44 |
I am surprising. "The Wall" is not so popular here?!
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 13:37 |
Animals
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 12:59 |
Animals easily, my favorite PF album.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 09:09 |
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! brain meltdown on this one... but I voted WALL...
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 21:33 |
Well, at the very least Dogs.
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 14:01 |
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Is there any song on Animals that tops Comfortably Numb? Not in my book. The Wall. |
I can name three: Sheep, Pigs, & Dogs
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 12:23 |
Is there any song on Animals that tops Comfortably Numb? Not in my book. The Wall.
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 10:26 |
1. Animals 2. The Wall
3. The Final Cut
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Posted: February 23 2015 at 21:35 |
Animals.
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Posted: February 22 2015 at 04:19 |
When I first heard The Final Cut I was one of many who found it didn't work for me. It is very austere and not really rock related. Effectively a prequel to The Wall and with a lot of comment to the events of 1982, as much as Animals attacks social mores in the 1970s though in more general terms. Always thought Roger has a very nice line in invective. Pink Floyd utterly out manoeuvred punk.
Now I listen to and enjoy The Final Cut - there are some fine melodies there which may not be Roger's priority. But DG gets in his effective guitar solos and Michael Kamen contributes some beautiful orchestration. The inclusion of When The Tigers Broke Free is most welcome.
The Wall is huge. It gets covered, tributed, schools do their version. It saved the dying music biz (that and Zep's ITTOD). But how this dense narrative with the vast array of styles holds up but broke into commercial acceptance is quite something.
I suppose I shuld vote for Animals, a rock classic. it's logical perhaps. But loads of respect to The Final Cut I think The Wall with it's concerts and live version, the movie is really a summit of the audio visual ambitions The Pink Floyd had begun c. 1965.
P.S. [Hidden message] Dear Pink Floyd, please, do a decent remaster of Animals. The CD and LP sound as impenetrable as each other. And make sure I can get a 24 bit version. Cheers. ;)
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Posted: February 16 2015 at 22:13 |
This was my introduction to Animals, LOL:
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Posted: February 16 2015 at 21:26 |
jude111 wrote:
Animals has great consistency. On the other hand, The Wall has great highs, and some weak material. Just like Ummagumma had great consistency, while Meddle had great highs, and some weaker material. In both cases, I went with the albums that had great highs. (I.e. Meddle & The Wall.)
| Even considering "Comfortably Numb", Dogs for me is a higher high than anything on The Wall, so for me Animals wins both for consitency and highs.
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Posted: February 16 2015 at 06:54 |
Animals over The Wall. Although I listen to cuts from The Wall more, as a whole, the album itself is just too depressing. Animals might not be as fluid as The Wall, but I come out feeling better listening to the whole thing in one sitting as opposed to The Wall.
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