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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:00 | ||
I get your point but where did these artists get their ideas & impetus?
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:02 | ||
Thanks, Sean! Thought of adding Frisco and UK as choices but then thought, "Where did those people get their ideas and motivations?" |
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:05 | ||
I toyed with the "all of the above" option but wanted more of the input of "others" cuz I knew that there would be many sources/influences that I had not thought of. Also, I did include the multiple vote option (I know: time suck) and a few kind of overlap... Also, Shankar and Usted Ali Akbar Kahn had started playing/touring in the West from 1955 on. And I suppose the British would have known traditional Indian music (as well as many other types of music) for long before that with their occupancy of that area. Plus ethnomusicologists had been actively pursuing and gathering indigenous musics on tape since the 1940s.
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:07 | ||
Too funny! On some level of course you're right, but . . . the historian in me can't help but look at the fibers in the weave of the tapestry . . . .
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:09 | ||
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:20 | ||
I thought of this too ("Affluence" I would have called it) but also believe that music became more available to and musicianship became more attractive to society as a whole (the 'progresses' made in Labor unions, Civil Rights, and the emergence of a 'middle class' in the West enabled an expansion in the affordability of musical equipment to motivated/inspired 'working class' kids).
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:24 | ||
I put in Karl Stockhausen because Can's Holger Czukay and Irmin Schmidt had studied with him--and maybe there were others. And Can was pretty close to the beginnings of German Progressive Rock.
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Drew Fisher
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King Only
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:31 | ||
It's not one of the poll options but I think literature definitely had an influence on musicians and inspired them to make longer and more experimental tracks. Trying to capture the atmosphere of certain novels forced musicians to try new things. Progressive artists like Klaus Schulze, Richard Pinhas and Bernard Szajner all wrote tracks that were inspired by Frank Herbert's Dune science fiction books for example.
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Manuel
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:59 | ||
Exactly my thoughts.
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Manuel
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 10:00 | ||
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 10:04 | ||
Awesome point! I do like to think that there were crossover effects between the arts. Kerouac, Ginsberg, Burroughs, Heinlein, Bradbury, Stanislaw Lem, etc., must have inspired creativity among the youth who became artist/musicians.
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Drew Fisher
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zravkapt
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 10:47 | ||
Stravinsky and Varese. |
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Magma America Great Make Again
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zravkapt
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 10:50 | ||
Zappa, Beefheart, Richard Wright and Miles Davis were also influenced by Karlheinz Stockhausen. |
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Magma America Great Make Again
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 11:00 | ||
Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnfyBk6QzM |
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 11:11 | ||
Thanks for that! Good to know! (for my research)
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 11:14 | ||
Of course! Awesome vid! A sax quartet!
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Drew Fisher
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SteveG
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 11:15 | ||
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Barbu
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 11:43 | ||
Other :
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Rednight
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 12:12 | ||
Sgt. Pepper's', col-dangit (and let's not forget Tomorrow Never Knows)!
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Polymorphia
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 12:42 | ||
I think Rick Wakemans is the best player of the prog origin.
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