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Dean
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 05:29 | |||
reading the OP is informative to say the least, it didn't ask for examples of Neo Prog. Crossover ... Moody Blues - The Story In Your Eyes Canterbury ... Egg - Seven Is A Jolly Good Time Eclectic ... Van der Graaf Generator - Man Erg Electronic ... Tangerine Dream - Ricochet, Part One Heavy Prog ... Babe Ruth - The Mexican Jazz Rock ... Mahavishnu Orchestra - Thousand Island Park Jazz Fusion ... pass Krautrock ... Neu! - Negativeland Neo-medieval/Baroque Prog ... has to be Gryphon - Gulland Rock Neoclasssical Prog ... The Enid - In The Region Of the Summer Stars (track) Prog Folk ... Tim Buckley - Phantasmagoria In Two Psychedelia ... Kaleidoscope - In The Room Of Percussion (not really, it's just one of my favourites ) RPI ... Le Orme - Ritratto Di Un Mattino Space/Atmospheric ... Hawkwind - The Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke) Symphonic ... Renaissance - Innocence Zeuhl ... Magma - meh, no idea, pass
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Cristi
Special Collaborator Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 41343 |
Posted: March 17 2015 at 05:43 | |||
Saying that Trick and W&W inspired neo-prog is one thing, labeling these two albums as neo-prog is another. I screwed things up with my progressive metal post which I edited (but it's here cause it got quoted), my mistake, I should have read the original post more carefully. |
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someone_else
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 06:09 | |||
Avant/RIO................: Henry Cow - Beautiful as the Moon - Terrible as an Army with Banners
Crossover................: Supertramp - Fool's Overture Canterbury...............: Khan - Space Shanty Eclectic.................: Gnidrolog - Lady Lake Electronic...............: Klaus Schulze - Mental Door Heavy Prog...............: Rush - Xanadu Jazz Rock................: Jazz Fusion..............: Krautrock................: Neo-medieval/Baroque Prog: Gentle Giant - Raconteur, Troubadour Neoclasssical Prog.......: Prog Folk................: Jethro Tull - Hunting Girl Psychedelia..............: Pink Floyd - Interstellar Overdrive RPI......................: Space/Atmospheric........: Pink Floyd - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (Ummagumma or Pompeiï version) Symphonic................: Genesis - Firth of Fifth Zeuhl....................: Magma - Kobaïa
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 06:22 | |||
If Neo Prog style didn't start with Merillion's Script for a Jester's Tear the album (1983), then One for the Vine is a great example of Neo Prog song recorded in seventies.
In fact, BrufordFreak asks not for the champion bands of the PA genres, but for the songs that will best represent the genres at his radio show. So, for example, I could put on my list Genesis' The Knife as heavy prog song instead of Uriah Heep Salisbury and to not make a mistake at all; it's a same thing with One for the Vine as Neo Prog song as well. |
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Cristi
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 07:47 | |||
It sounds complicated, to me neo-prog started with Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ. It makes sense, to make a distinction concerning the new wave of bands trying to play progressive rock, symphonic prog inspired, in the 80s. As for bands belonging to god knows what genres, I've seen German band Jane being labeled as Krautrock. Is it a mistake? I wouldn't say that. Deep Purple is labeled as proto-prog, heavy prog, prog related, hard rock, heavy psych, heavy metal. Which is it? Or is it all of them? And the one I dislike the most is seeing Black Sabbath labeled as doom metal or god forbid stoner. And I could think of some more. |
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Dean
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 08:22 | |||
The solution is album-tagging and multi-tagging. This way we could document the various styles that a band covered in their lifetime and categorise their albums to more helpfully to anyone one interested in a particular sound. It must be emphasised that once you hear an album for yourself any prior categorisation of that album becomes essentially meaningless, it is merely a guide for those who haven't heard it. Categorising bands is an exercise in futility because bands have an annoying habit of deliberately defying convention. None of the early Neo Prog bands thought they were creating a new subgenre of Progressive Rock music and I would be very surprised if any of them considered themselves or the albums they recorded to be neo anything at the time. They were young Prog bands continuing the established genre and the Neo Prog tag is something that was applied to them retrospectively. They certainly were not new-wave bands trying to play Progressive Rock - some of these bands, while not securing a recording contract until the early 80s, had their origins in the late 70s - simply listening to the early (demo & tape) recordings of Twelfth Night reveals no "new-wave" influence or stylings.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 09:10 | |||
you nailed it Edited by Cristi - March 17 2015 at 09:35 |
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 13:48 | |||
Thanks, Dean! You honor me!
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Raff
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 14:00 | |||
Babe Ruth can be a bit of an acquired taste on account of the singer, a woman by the name of Janita (Jenny) Haan. If you, like me, love powerful, gutsy female vocalists, you will probably love "The Mexican". If you, on the other hand, prefer your lady singers on the angelic side, you might want to give this one a pass.
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Dean
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 14:24 | |||
Avoiding the obvious choice of Kings and Queens really. Nah, I just prefer Keith and Jane Relf's Renaissance over later incarnations of the band. But the album that Innocence comes from was the first full-blown symphonic album IMO, and the piano on that track is just sublime.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 16:51 | |||
Babe Ruth should pique the curiosity of many a listener. The third (eponymous) album is great, too.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 16:52 | |||
I would add "2112" by Rush and definitely "Stargazer" by Rainbow as sterling examples of templates for progressive metal.
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Raff
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 17:15 | |||
Indeed - though I would replace "2112" with the whole of A Farewell to Kings, which in my view is stronger and more cohesive in terms of composition. |
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lazland
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 17:37 | |||
Stargazer was simply brilliant. Rising remains one of my favourite albums ever.
A tribute to RJD might well follow later. |
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micky
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 17:50 | |||
perhaps something from High Tide.
covers both bases... fundamental essential heavy prog... and proto progressive doom metal! |
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 18:06 | |||
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 18:06 | |||
Nice list, else! Thanks!
Thanks so much for your time and efforts! You definitely gave me several to consider that I'd overlooked! Awesome! |
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Drew Fisher
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 18:09 | |||
Definitely a few mentions here that are more in line with my thinking. Before Rush 'took over' the sub-genre there were proto-Rush bands, nest-ce pas?
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Drew Fisher
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micky
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 18:13 | |||
those proto Rush bands were far more interesting IMO. Rush is popular yeah yeah yeah we all get that.. we all love the group to various degrees.. but heavy prog started with DP in the late 60's. It was around, even perfected well before Rush were known to anyone outside of their immediately family man...
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Sheavy
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 19:07 | |||
For Prog Electronic, if time is an issue try these. Not sure I would say any of them exactly epitomize PE like any of the longer songs, but they are killer tracks.
Klaus Schulze - Frank Herbert Tangerine Dream - 3A.M. At The Border Of The Marsh From Okefenokee Kraftwerk -Trans Europa Express Zanov - Machine Desperation Jean Michel-Jarre - Oxygene Part One Ose - L'Aube Jumelle Harmonia - Watussi Vangelis - Pulsar Conrad Schnitzler - Black Nails Igor Wakhevitch - Twilight And Call Of The Ascending Spirit Gave about ten more songs than you asked for and much more of a varied sound than you asked for. Edited by Sheavy - March 17 2015 at 19:12 |
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