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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 05:41 | ||||
I didn't for one moment think you were, (I have a much higher opinion of myself) I was just curious to why you wanted to "break free from this pompous BS"
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 05:43 | ||||
Dean, you are my fav, hot fluffy pompous grumpy hug
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 05:44 | ||||
hahaha you are quick lolol hahahaha
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 05:56 | ||||
If there are more bands/artists than fans, I do not believe this it would be the end and a nightmare, I won't believe this and will keep sharing my enthusiasm to others. Common, to be honest we complain about pop artists and rap artists too but atleast they are united meanwhile all we do is snob our noses and bitch about others, P.S. Endorse is big word, Raff. I rather prefer to say (instead saying I do not endorse) I disagree what you said about Angelo.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 05:58 | ||||
It does, but the sequence goes: 1st party presence (bandcamp, facebook, myspace, youtube-channel); solicited 2nd party presence (band listing sites, wikipedia, LastFM, PA); unsolicited 3rd party presence (blogs, fan pages, review-sites). Often it stops dead at 1st party presence. Many assume that 2nd party presence, such as being listed here is enough. Few bands ever achieve 3rd party recognition even within the 2nd/3rd party domain of the PA. Adding a band here is not creating 3rd party interest in a band if no one ever reviews an album. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The incident that caused this childish rift between Svetonio and myself was over the inclusion of a band. He was getting hung-up over which subgenre the band should be placed in (Math or Eclectic). I said [if the subgenre is hard to decide then] it doesn't matter where the band goes because (and this is something I learnt from Mickey) we should "let the reviews speak for the music". So later when Austin said "IF they were passed to Math then let's just add them there"... Svetonio took this as an official acceptance of the band. So when I pointed out that the rest of the Math team would need to vote on the evaluation he replied with: "let the reviews speak for the music" ...I thought (and still think) that was a silly thing to say and I told him to stop being a four-letter word that begins with "d" and ends with "k". In the end (9 months later) the band was added to RIO/Avant. To date they have no reviews and only two ratings: by Svetonio and the band's guitarist.
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:06 | ||||
you both
stop being silly
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:07 | ||||
Raff said "I cannot BUT endorse" ... that means she has no choice BUT to agree with him. That is: Raff agrees with Angelo
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:09 | ||||
Silly is as silly does.
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:10 | ||||
Dean, you see!!! I am a nincompoop, this is proof! I completely misread it and now I feel not so good about myself bah
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:13 | ||||
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lazland
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13249 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:39 | ||||
Don't worry about it, Sonia. Nincompoop's can be great fun Also, in keeping with the arguments on this thread, it should be said that the web presence of the Nincompoop is a damned sight greater than the majority of Bandcramp suggestions brought to PA in recent months |
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13239 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:40 | ||||
lol, Lazland, well said.
Sonia, thanks for defending me - despite the fact she agrees with me, Raff can look very threatening |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:52 | ||||
Lazland, you are a magic, you give me (us) a beautiful happy feeling before we can think of anything good enough to reply to you , poof you disappear .... not fair, every time you appear you make us feel so special and think the world is wonderful and poof again you are gone lol you say the nicest things at the ones most down moments, awww thank you so much, not only for now but previous times and a few months back too thank you very much, Sonia
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 06:55 | ||||
Raff is intimidating because her knowledge is so much more than me
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miamiscot
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3426 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:00 | ||||
Prog today is where Punk was in 1981 - more bands than fans. We played to crowds of 10-15 people sometimes, all of whom were in bands themselves. Keep the faith, proggers. Maybe our Green Day is right around the corner.
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13239 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:57 | ||||
Green Day? Hmmm... glad I know what analogies are, because that would be a disaster,
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:00 | ||||
Green Day are Punk Rock, even the band describes themselves as such
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13239 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:02 | ||||
That was my point exactly...and miamiscot's as well ;-)
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:04 | ||||
Alas, many of the disagreements on the interwebs are the result of silly misunderstandings caused by people reading posts too quickly and reacting to what they think they read and not what was actually written. I am not immune from this, I too have been known to jump to the wrong conclusion over what I thought the other person said because I miss-read what they wrote. So, after 20 years of arguing on the internet, I try not to make snap knee-jerk replies and try to avoid attacking the person themselves; but again, I'm not immune - when frustrated by snippy posts I will give snippy replies, I'm not a machine, I have feelings and can be hurt as easily as anyone else. In one of my first ever BBS forum posts back in 1994 I typed "Br*t Pop" instead of "Brit Pop" because I thought it amusing to infer that it could mean Brit and Brat ... someone, un-offended by my cheap joke about Brit Pop, took exception to my improper use of the asterisk (*) and launched into a puerile attack on me personally and made what I can only assume he thought were clever remarks about Asterix being a Gaul not a Goth. A harsh lesson quickly learnt - if I behaved like a dick then I deserved to be called a dick but that doesn't grant anyone the right to be more of a dick in return. As abrasive as I am, I vowed never to become like that guy, so aside from some immature name-calling I've never made public personal attacks on anyone here, including Mr Svetonio Monopod. My first step towards that was the dumping of an anonymous screen-name to hide behind. The screen-name that Svetonio is so adverse to quoting in any post now is my real name. Similarly I use people's real names in any post I make (if I know it), I never call you "Kati" - it's always "Sonia", "Lazland" is "Steve" never "Laz", "Pedro" is never "Moshy" etc. etc. This is to remind me that the person behind the anonymous screen-name is a real person, just like me. They have feelings and emotions just like me, they get angry just me and they can get hurt, again, just like me. My second is to never post in haste or in anger. Write-out the angry post by all means - it's very cathartic to vent your spleen - to see those angry words on a page - but delete them, never post them. When I write long-winded posts in response to something it is because I have taken the time to carefully read their post and consider every point they have made. If I do not understand the point then I ask for clarification and further explanation; conversely if I think the person has made an error then I will point that out to them and I'l try to do that without causing offence. Unfortunately some people are easily offended, they also have a habit of taking quotes out of context and deliberately miss-representing the opinion of others. I am never offended when people argue against me - that's healthy and acceptable. I do, however, take exception when people attack me instead of the points I am making, but my response is to either acknowledge the punch and continue without lowering myself to their level, or ignore it and walk away. I will not fight and squabble with people on the internet when they make it personal. Strong and heated discussion is not fighting, it is the expression of differing and conflicting opinion but it is not fighting, nor is it a reflection of animosity or spite. Personal attacks are. I'll never go around hugging people because I'm British and we don't go in for that kind of thing, but I'll not kick them in the nether regions either. Edited by Dean - April 24 2015 at 08:10 |
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Komandant Shamal
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 02 2015 Location: Yugoslavia Status: Offline Points: 954 |
Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:21 | ||||
It's a great idea, Svetonio
Indeed there are so much of gorgeous debuts without a review and on the other side there are plenty of albums with hundreds of reviews. It's evidently that the newbies-reviewers are hurry to review mainly these famous albums with already a huge number of reviews. So i hope that the PA admins will take your proposal to serious consideration.
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