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    Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:23
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This is my first post here, I am a 32 year old musician who lives in Montreal and I would like to have recommendations for prog or jazz fusion albums from before the 90s that are very technical. Bonus points if they experiment with atonality. I like the band Present a lot. I also like Gentle Giant, PFM and Lucifer's Friend. I listen to a lot of modern prog metal and extreme metal and lately I have been wondering if there were some older bands who were playing similar styles, but before metal blossomed. My favorite bands include Spiral Architect, Theory In Practice, Anomalous, The Crinn, Canvas Solaris, Blotted Science, Spawn Of Possession, The Helix Nebula, Irreversible Mechanism, Behold The Arctopus, Niacin, Journal, Citriniti and many others, I could go on and on. :p

Thanks in advance!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:29
If you're after jazz fusion start with Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever & Miles Davis (Bitches Brew & In A Silent Way).

If you want technical atonal I'd go after Henry Cow, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Etron Fou Leloublan, Samla Mammas Manna


Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - April 25 2015 at 22:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:44
I'd like to recommend Return to Forever's Where Have I Know Your Before and Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy and Steely Dan's Aja, as a great examples of 70s progressive Fusion / Jazz Rock as well.
As tecnnically superb prog I'd like to recommend Yes' Relayer.
As proggy & technically superb metal (hard rock) album from 70s, I'd like to recommend Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy (1976)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:49
Thank you!

Nogbad: Turns out I already know your jazz fusion recs as well as Art Zoyd but I will give the others a listen!

Svetonio: It's funny because I never gave Yes a chance. I always thought "But they wrote Owner Of A Lonely Heart!" even though it doesn't mean in any way that they can't have written technical albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:52
Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Thank you!

Nogbad: Turns out I already know your jazz fusion recs as well as Art Zoyd but I will give the others a listen!

Svetonio: It's funny because I never gave Yes a chance. I always thought "But they wrote Owner Of A Lonely Heart!" even though it doesn't mean in any way that they can't have written technical albums.
Give a chance to Gates of Delirium Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:54
More jazz fusion

Jean Luc Ponty - Enigmatic Oceans
Herbie Hancock - Crossings
Slouche - Stadacone
Pekka Pohjola - B The Magpie

Atonal Technical

Cardiacs - A Little Man ...
Thinking Plague - In This Life
Art Bears - Winter Song
Aksak Mahboul - Un Peu De L'Ames Des Bandits
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:01
I'd like to add Wigwam's Nuclear Nightclub (1975) and Gong's Shamal (1975).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:12
As atonaly and experimental progressive fusion and yet tehnically superb album, I'd like to recommend Terje Rypdal's Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away (ECM, 1974).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:37
Wow thanks so much! My favorites so far have been Aksak Mahboul - Un Peu De L'Ames Des Bandits, Univers Zero, Henry Cow, Terje Rypdal, Sloche, Thinking Plague, Ponty and Hancock. There were some pretty good moments in the Yes song but I did not like the parts with vocals. :p I will need to listen more to all of these though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:47
Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Wow thanks so much! My favorites so far have been Aksak Mahboul - Un Peu De L'Ames Des Bandits, Univers Zero, Henry Cow, Terje Rypdal, Sloche, Thinking Plague, Ponty and Hancock. There were some pretty good moments in the Yes song but I did not like the parts with vocals. :p I will need to listen more to all of these though.
Also, as techically superb and proggy metal (hard rock) album from 70s, don't forget In Rock by Deep Purple Wink
If you don't like Jon Anderson's voice, then I'd like to recommend Le Orme Felona E Sonora (1973).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:49
Will try it. Anything similar to Gilgamesh?

EDIT: Le Orme seems to have pretty good parts!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2015 at 23:57
Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Will try it. Anything similar to Gilgamesh?

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Well, try Gong's Gazeuse! (1976)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 00:14
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Will try it. Anything similar to Gilgamesh?

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Well, try Gong's Gazeuse! (1976)


Wow!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 00:25
Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by ChaoticEmergence ChaoticEmergence wrote:

Will try it. Anything similar to Gilgamesh?

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Well, try Gong's Gazeuse! (1976)


Wow!
If you like it, then also try Gong's Expresso II (1977)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 00:51
Oh and don't forget to try, as an quite experimental and probably the best progressive fusion album from 80s, Cloud About Mercury by David Torn (with Mark Isham, Tony Levin, Bill Brufford).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 02:30
Any of the 3 albums by the seventies jazz rock band Colosseum II which featured Jon Hiseman , Don Airey and Gary Moore. Their track Dark Side Of The Moog is without doubt my favourite of this genre.
If you want to go even further back then the original Colosseum line up ( Greenslade , Hiseman, Heckstall- Smith , Tony Reeves and Chris Farlowe) made a track called Valentyne Suite. Its a beauty! Another offshoot band Greenslade should also be of interest.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 05:43
For 70s jazz rock fusion, don't miss out on Passport, especially their albums Doldinger ("71) , Looking Thru ("74) and Cross Collateral ("75).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 08:09
If you like Gilgamesh you should check out Matching Mole, National Health and if you are ok with vocals, Caravan and Hatfield and The North. The Gong albums suggested previously are excellent. There's a whole Canterbury scene you probably need to explore.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2015 at 10:02
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

If you like Gilgamesh you should check out Matching Mole, National Health and if you are ok with vocals, Caravan and Hatfield and The North. The Gong albums suggested previously are excellent. There's a whole Canterbury scene you probably need to explore.

I came here to say almost exactly the sameBig smile

The first thing I thought of when I saw this thread was National Health. A bit of Tenemos Roads just might do the trick


My fave from the album is still Elephants, but I reckon I'm in the minority on that one + Tenemos Roads is probably a better introduction to National Health.


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