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    Posted: August 03 2017 at 15:05
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis.


This seems a particularly bizarre answer, Tull stopped releasing prog albums after the 70's, GG literally haven't done anything since the 70's, Camel went seriously off the boil after the mid 70's, Genesis stopped being prog in the 70's. So why replace Yes or ELP with any of those as they all line-up the same. Crimson's output post 70's trumps all the suggested alternatives except Magma.


Tull were 100% prog from 77-80. Mainly folk but a bit of heavy stuff too. Plenty of strong prog outtakes from 74 and 76 which have appeared over the last 25 years. If they didn't release any soundtracks those years, they would have been prog albums. GG and Genesis had plenty of good stuff between 75 and 80. Crimson did nothing after 74 until 1980 and I was never overly crazy about the wetton era. Yes only had 2 albums in second half of 70s and I thought they dropped off in 73 and 74. ELP were the weakest big prog band after 73
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 11:06
I think I would have to go with Yes, Genesis & King Crimson (with Pink Floyd  just missing the cut)
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:30
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis.

This seems a particularly bizarre answer, Tull stopped releasing prog albums after the 70's, GG literally haven't done anything since the 70's, Camel went seriously off the boil after the mid 70's, Genesis stopped being prog in the 70's. So why replace Yes or ELP with any of those as they all line-up the same. Crimson's output post 70's trumps all the suggested alternatives except Magma.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:18
King Crimson for me the highlight band. But if we need to put 3, only, Zappa covered King Crimson
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:00
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Yes
Genesis
Pink Floyd

Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3.

I find a "Big Three" without King Crimson inconceivable.

I find a "Big Three" without ELP inconceivable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 08:36
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Yes
Genesis
Pink Floyd

Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3.

I find a "Big Three" without King Crimson inconceivable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 07:57
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Yes
Genesis
Pink Floyd

Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3.


Yeah, I agree - pretty hard and pointless !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2017 at 06:00
It's very difficult to creted relay The Big Three.
Fo example, I consider Gentle Giatnt as most outstanding band, what ever. But if we're talking about THE BIG THREE, my list will be :
Zappa,
Genesis (first 4 album),
Pink Froyd

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:51
Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis.
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:42
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

1.- Genesis
2.- ELP
3.- Yes

Absolutely agree. My order, though, would be.. 

1. - Yes
2. - Genesis(Just a HAIR behind Yes/pretty much tied)
3. - ELP 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:41
Neil and Jack and me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:38
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

1. Starcastle
2. Krokodil
3. Pazop

Some love for Krokodil!

An Invisible World Revealed!!!!!!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:36
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

1. Gentle Giant
2. The Giant
3. Giant Gentle

This list is perfect! Wouldn't change a thing. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 13:40
BIG BIG TRAIN
BIG LIETTO PER L'INFERNO
THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G.

Seriously, I think it's really tough to limit to three and haven't thought in quite those terms. Big five, big seven, big eight, sure.
Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 13:34
I agree that Yes, Genesis and Pink Floyd are the big three. If we are going by a strict definition of prog I would swap out PF for King Crimson. King Crimson might have lacked the album sales of ELP or JT but I think they made up for it in influence. These days they are probably more of a gateway band to prog than just about any other band except for maybe Rush or PF. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 12:43
Mayday!  Who are they?  Where do they get the clouds of must believe.  Jan Hammer Group from Melodies.  I just listened to Melodies a day or so ago.

Edited by Slartibartfast - August 02 2017 at 12:44
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:37
Moody Blues were very important to prog.  Without them I'm not sure what prog would have looked like.  But they were not capital P prog.  As much as they aren't among my very favorites, I have to go with King Crimson, Yes, and Genesis for influence on the prog that would follow.  Honorable mention to ELP, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:24
Yes
Genesis
Pink Floyd

Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:08
1.- Genesis
2.- ELP
3.- Yes
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2017 at 08:39
1. Starcastle
2. Krokodil
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