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dr prog
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Topic: The Big Three - who are they? Posted: August 03 2017 at 15:05 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis. |
This seems a particularly bizarre answer, Tull stopped releasing prog albums after the 70's, GG literally haven't done anything since the 70's, Camel went seriously off the boil after the mid 70's, Genesis stopped being prog in the 70's. So why replace Yes or ELP with any of those as they all line-up the same. Crimson's output post 70's trumps all the suggested alternatives except Magma. | Tull were 100% prog from 77-80. Mainly folk but a bit of heavy stuff too. Plenty of strong prog outtakes from 74 and 76 which have appeared over the last 25 years. If they didn't release any soundtracks those years, they would have been prog albums. GG and Genesis had plenty of good stuff between 75 and 80. Crimson did nothing after 74 until 1980 and I was never overly crazy about the wetton era. Yes only had 2 albums in second half of 70s and I thought they dropped off in 73 and 74. ELP were the weakest big prog band after 73
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Argo2112
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 11:06 |
I think I would have to go with Yes, Genesis & King Crimson (with Pink Floyd just missing the cut)
Edited by Argo2112 - August 03 2017 at 11:07
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:30 |
dr prog wrote:
Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis. |
This seems a particularly bizarre answer, Tull stopped releasing prog albums after the 70's, GG literally haven't done anything since the 70's, Camel went seriously off the boil after the mid 70's, Genesis stopped being prog in the 70's. So why replace Yes or ELP with any of those as they all line-up the same. Crimson's output post 70's trumps all the suggested alternatives except Magma.
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soundloverr
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:18 |
King Crimson for me the highlight band. But if we need to put 3, only, Zappa covered King Crimson
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Barbu
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 09:00 |
Lewian wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
YesGenesis Pink Floyd
Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3. |
I find a "Big Three" without King Crimson inconceivable.
| I find a "Big Three" without ELP inconceivable.
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Lewian
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 08:36 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
YesGenesis Pink Floyd
Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3. |
I find a "Big Three" without King Crimson inconceivable.
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Quinino
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 07:57 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
YesGenesis Pink Floyd
Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3. |
Yeah, I agree - pretty hard and pointless !
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soundloverr
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Posted: August 03 2017 at 06:00 |
It's very difficult to creted relay The Big Three. Fo example, I consider Gentle Giatnt as most outstanding band, what ever. But if we're talking about THE BIG THREE, my list will be : Zappa, Genesis (first 4 album), Pink Froyd
Edited by soundloverr - August 03 2017 at 07:08
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dr prog
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:51 |
Couldn't possibly have Yes, Elp or Crimson in there. Just didn't do enough after the early 70s. It's can only be between Tull, Gentle Giant, Camel, Magma, Le Orme and Genesis.
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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YESESIS
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:42 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
1.- Genesis2.- ELP 3.- Yes |
Absolutely agree. My order, though, would be..
1. - Yes 2. - Genesis(Just a HAIR behind Yes/pretty much tied) 3. - ELP
Gentle Giant
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Lewian
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:41 |
Neil and Jack and me.
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YESESIS
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:38 |
ALotOfBottle wrote:
1. Starcastle 2. Krokodil 3. Pazop
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Some love for Krokodil!
An Invisible World Revealed!!!!!!!!
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YESESIS
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 16:36 |
Barbu wrote:
1. Gentle Giant 2. The Giant 3. Giant Gentle |
This list is perfect! Wouldn't change a thing.
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Logan
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 13:40 |
BIG BIG TRAIN BIG LIETTO PER L'INFERNO THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
Seriously, I think it's really tough to limit to three and haven't thought in quite those terms. Big five, big seven, big eight, sure.
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 13:34 |
I agree that Yes, Genesis and Pink Floyd are the big three. If we are going by a strict definition of prog I would swap out PF for King Crimson. King Crimson might have lacked the album sales of ELP or JT but I think they made up for it in influence. These days they are probably more of a gateway band to prog than just about any other band except for maybe Rush or PF.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 12:43 |
Mayday! Who are they? Where do they get the clouds of must believe. Jan Hammer Group from Melodies. I just listened to Melodies a day or so ago.
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 02 2017 at 12:44
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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kenethlevine
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:37 |
Moody Blues were very important to prog. Without them I'm not sure what prog would have looked like. But they were not capital P prog. As much as they aren't among my very favorites, I have to go with King Crimson, Yes, and Genesis for influence on the prog that would follow. Honorable mention to ELP, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:24 |
Yes Genesis Pink Floyd
Think it's pretty hard to argue against those 3.
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Ian
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 10:08 |
1.- Genesis 2.- ELP 3.- Yes
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: August 02 2017 at 08:39 |
1. Starcastle 2. Krokodil 3. Pazop
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