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condor 
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 08:28 |
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What percentage of prog is on Spotify? If the percentage is high, how do you decide which albums to buy, especially if you have no internet at home, only in the library or cafes like me?
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Michael678
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 08:33 |
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gahhhhhh sh*t, that's a hard one; probably 70%? and oh yes, i feel you regarding the libraries since some of the prog on this site is available at said places (granted not a lot of prog; probably less than half than what's on Spotify). I'd probably say to go a place like Amazon and maybe look for the what the "chosen album" costs and see that's reasonable. I know that's not very specific, but probably go for the cheapest prices first (like Fragile which i think the 2003 remaster is $4.99 if I'm not mistaken). Hope this helps ya!
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 08:33 |
I boycott Spotify because they don't have Cardiacs. They can suck it...
Although... right now it's the only way to listen to the new Osanna record.
OH GOSH THE DILEMMA
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 08:36 |
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There is a lot of prog, but I have no idea what percentage. There's no King Crimson, that's the most glaring omission as far as I know and some discographies are incomplete (no Lamb Lies Down on Broadway).
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garfunkel
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 09:14 |
A Lot of Italian artists missing. KC of course. Most obscure acts also, very disappointing.  As a relatively new fan of prog, it's hard to listen to stuff that looks interesting.
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Xonty
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 09:33 |
There's more of the stuff I listen to on YouTube, and Spotify slows my computer speed right down, but I'll still look for albums on there if I can't find them anywhere else. Generally I've found it's better for modern prog artists. I have no idea how much prog there is in the world, as there'll be thousands of really obscure demo stuff that could classify, but on the whole it's about the same as YouTube I'd say.
Deciding which albums to buy? Just the quality (and cost), surely? 
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 09:44 |
 condor wrote:
What percentage of prog is on Spotify? |
[shrug] Dunno.
condor wrote:
... how do you decide which albums to buy, ... |
1) Depends on the album's status (i.e., reputation); 2) I'm not easy to please, so the songs on the album have to sound (really) good.
condor wrote:
... especially if you have no internet at home, only in the library or cafes like me?
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Not a problem. My phone actually lets me download albums using 3G network (i.e., if I start and finish downloading through the network in a single run). Otherwise, if I bother about the 3072-MB quota, I better hurry to a Wi-Fi area.
But hey, lately I haven't been buying whole albums, but just single tracks since my coffers are nearly empty.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 13 2015 at 09:47
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Andy Webb
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 10:10 |
There's a surprisingly good amount of prog on Spotify, and not just the "big" stuff. A lot of smaller labels will put their material on Spotify because it's good exposure. Granted, there are some big names missing (e.g. King Crimson, Porcupine Tree's early catalog) but probably most of us own that stuff anyway, so it's not such a big deal.
Spotify is my main music player these days, mostly because of mobile streaming. I have a fraction of the music stored on my phone that I used to now because of that service.
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 11:50 |
condor wrote:
What percentage of prog is on Spotify? If the percentage is high, how do you decide which albums to buy, especially if you have no internet at home, only in the library or cafes like me?
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I'd guess that at least more than 90% of all prog albums ever released are on Spotify. Some of the more well known ones aren't, but heaps and bounds of lesser known bands can be found there. Just Musea's releases on Spotify alone would take you at least a full year to listen through.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 14:21 |
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Depends on how twitchy the artist is about online streaming. I know KC for one isn't there.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 15:20 |
It kind of depends on which prog genres you're most interested in. The various metal bands, psych, RIO, symphonic, eclectic, crossover, jazz, heavy, neo, electronic and post/math are pretty well represented on Spotify. Zeuhl, Indo/Raga, Folk, Canterbury and RPI less so. Some of my favorite prog folk bands are either not available or significant portions of their discographies are missing: Sad Minstral, The Third Estate, Carol of Harvest, Nya Ljudbolaget, Sussita, Rada & Ternovnik, Cerberus Shoal are some examples. Also depends on what region you're in. Whenever I'm in Europe I always download a lot of albums that Spotify erases and makes unavailable as soon as I return home to the States. For the most part though I find the $9 USD to be a bargain, especially for non-prog music (I listen to a lot of pop and oldies while working out). I have a phone app that connects to my home router and keep a drive connected to it as a personal cloud drive; that way I can have access to my personal stash when Spotify comes up short. As far as buying albums I still buy a fair number of new releases on vinyl just because I want to; most of those are available on Spotify. And whenever I find a used record store while traveling I'll always stop in just to see if they have anything unusual at a fair price. Otherwise I hardly buy anything anymore and use Bandcamp, SoundCloud, Spotify and youTube for at least 80-90% of all my music listening.
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SteveG
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 15:31 |
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What's Spotify?
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LearsFool
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 15:37 |
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Do they mean Spoofy?
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SteveG
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 15:54 |
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Maybe, Spoofy is my app.
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 16:05 |
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TheRollingOrange
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 17:41 |
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I think there's quite a good selection of prog on Spotify. Spotify is also my main source of music, it's very handy. Of course some bands/albums are not on there, but that's something the record labels/artists has decided, not Spotify. King Crimson for example. Fripp doesn't like his music being online.
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Gully Foyle
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 19:19 |
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spotify and it's ilk are evil - support the artists, not the greedy startups
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 20:14 |
SteveG wrote:
What's Spotify? |
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 20:15 |
No clue about Spotify, never have used that service. I still use the Zune Marketplace/Xbox Music and now called Groove, program/software to stream, download music. None of them have KC catalog as that is a decision by artists and label to allow digital/online downloading streaming.
Porcupine Tree was on Zune for years....Just recently all the catalog went off but then what came available were albums like Lightbulb Sun, Recordings and Anesthetize. All of Steven Wilson is available except HCE. And we all know that AC/DC has been made available for digital streaming downloading in the past month or two.....King Crimson I am sure will follow soon.
I get probably 95% of my prog off Zune Marketplace, even the new Echolyn album was there. Here is a screen shot of part of my prog collection.......
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tboyd1802
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Posted: August 13 2015 at 22:28 |
Gully Foyle wrote:
spotify and it's ilk are evil - support the artists, not the greedy startups |
Agreed...
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