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    Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:18
I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.

Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:25
How so?
What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:27
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:34
I'm not sure
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:38
Sometime when something is cheesy, like a lot of the lesser level post-rock/post-metal (Shels, Explosions in the Sky) and a good bit of well written but predictable prog-metal I think "I don't like this very much, I would never write this. Gosh what is this. Ew. Why did they choose so many notes with a predictability" but I end up loving it as it makes me feel an emotion. I think there is something about certain music that is predictable hitting certain emotional chords but turning away the brain.

This might be due to my problem with overanalyzing but that's life.

So maybe that's what you mean?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:43
Originally posted by condor condor wrote:

I recently bought Second Life Syndrome by Riverside. My first reaction was a voice in my head going "this is rubbish" but at the same time the hairs on the back of my hands were going up.

Any examples of where the body contradicts the brain?


Only with regard to a girl I once dated. Never had that reaction to music, I don't think..

If it evoked that physical reaction in you then you probably like it. No need to fight it.

I agree more with your brain in this instance though. Probably wouldn't go as far as saying it's rubbish, but SLS done nothing for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:47
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How so?
Dean asked a fair question. How about a more constructive answer than "I'm not sure". We're not psychic, my friend. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:50
Is anyone else thinking about that damn Britney Spears song now
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:52
My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:20
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.


Ah, now you see I felt like that about Lightbulb Sun. Because everyone else thought it was the dogs boll0cks but I just thought it was boll0cks. I thought I was bound to like it, but I do love In Absentia. I think it's their best album by a mile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:21
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.
In Absentia is the metal album for people who hate metal. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:24
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.
In Absentia is the metal album for people who hate metal. LOL

 You mean the black album by Metallica?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:33
^Exactly! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:39
My brain is usually in harmony with my ... erm ... heart (I hate colloquial poetry), so yes, I think what the OP experiences is a level of over-analysis or expectations I previously thought to be inconceivable. However, I do find myself really enjoying almost every song on Bert Jansch's Rosemary Lane and at the same time thinking: "OK, all this song has is an original melody and impeccable vocal delivery. That's it?" Yes, that's it. Sometimes that's all a song needs, but as someone who's been spoiled with overly saturated chord progressions, syncopated rhythms, and cool experiments, I'd say "Make the most out of the song."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:43
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

My brain is usually in harmony with my ... erm ... heart (I hate colloquial poetry), so yes, I think what the OP experiences is a level of over-analysis or expectations I previously thought to be inconceivable. However, I do find myself really enjoying almost every song on Bert Jansch's Rosemary Lane and at the same time thinking: "OK, all this song has is an original melody and impeccable vocal delivery. That's it?" Yes, that's it. Sometimes that's all a song needs, but as someone who's been spoiled with overly saturated chord progressions, syncopated rhythms, and cool experiments, I'd say "Make the most out of the song."
The 'less is more' dynamic with some music is hard to explain. It simply exists for some while others cannot comprehend it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:53
^ OK. So, ...

1) Less is more (subjectively perceived deficiency)

... and, as Smurph pointed out,

2) Enjoying predictable stuff (I can't recall a single moment when I would enjoy something predictable.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 10:58
^Here's another subjectively perceived deficiency: Lighten up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 11:06
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

My brain told me I would like Porcupine Tree's "In Absentia" (as I normally like PT and I like this kind of rocky guitar stuff as a rule) but I never really got it. I don't dislike it, I just can't put my finger on it somehow.
In Absentia is the metal album for people who hate metal. LOL
 
Or Deadwing.......Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 11:18
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ OK. So, ...

1) Less is more (subjectively perceived deficiency)

... and, as Smurph pointed out,

2) Enjoying predictable stuff (I can't recall a single moment when I would enjoy something predictable.)

We most likely have way different definitions of predictable. Haha. I'm sure there is stuff that you've enjoyed that could be considered predictable. Once you get totally used to avant-freak-jazz-metal-death-prog-rock-in-opposition music all the time you'll start to see a lot more as predictable.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2015 at 11:30
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

We most likely have way different definitions of predictable. Haha. I'm sure there is stuff that you've enjoyed that could be considered predictable.
Then, I suppose, there's a subjective scale with multiple criteria (form, chord progression, how recycled a melody sounds, etc.) defining what one would deem as predictable.

Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Once you get totally used to avant-freak-jazz-metal-death-prog-rock-in-opposition music all the time you'll start to see a lot more as predictable.Smile
Then I better start warming up to it now.


Edited by Dayvenkirq - August 18 2015 at 11:31
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