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    Posted: September 01 2015 at 04:59
Sounds like something that should be here somewhere at least, and if not so then at least an artist that merits some limelight tossed on to him.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2015 at 08:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 14:21
hello, where are we with Kalle ? Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 14:50
Rejected, I am afraid there was no single Yes vote
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2016 at 15:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 01:54
strange decision, he is reviewed on Musicwaves (tagged "progressive rock"), DPRP, Sea of Tranquility and Prog SPhere (by yours truly) among others. He is aired on several prog rock webradios. Is PA's goal still to be the ultimate resource for prog rock? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 03:52
The comments from the team ranged from

"Some songs are metal some are not. Also, some of the songs have prog elements, some don't really"
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"just solo shred stuff"

which kind of sums up my thoughts as well. The majority are 3-4 minute instrumental tracks on mostly repetitive structures. I agree there are some prog and experimental elements but I would not call this progressive metal.

I can take this back to the team if the feeling is strong though or if you could point us to another album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 10:09
there is no other album as far as I know, but those comments are hilarious. What about Robert Plant or Nightwish albums in PA???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 12:28
Yes, and there have been complaints about both Robert Plant's addition and Nightwish. When controversial additions are cited in making a case (in some cases bearing little musical resemblance), it makes me question the suitability of a band more (for instance, as an extreme, Bjork is here therefore Bon Jovi should be too). Sorry if your mentioning those was merely for humour value, but if it was not everyone might get it, so for some more background about those additions:

Robert Plant was added to Crossover, a completely different team with different expectations, and Nightwish was added back in late 2004 when the site was very different (I rarely visited here back then, but you would know how things worked back then).

Nigthwish:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1939&KW=Nightwish&PID=36174#36174
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2716&KW=Nightwish&PID=55007#55007
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3939&KW=Nightwish

Robert Plant:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82432&KW=Robert+plant&PID=4334199#4334199

Nightwish was a controversial addition back then, and it remained controversial. I respect Bob a lot, though, and see that he did support it, and I have no opinion on the merits. Robert Plant was also a controversial addition when he was added, and I have no opinion on the merits of his addition. I also have no personal opinion on the merits of Kalle Vilpuu. Incidentally, I have shown support for quite a number of controversial additions over the years, and by posting those links in no way do I mean to imply that just because something is controversial it does not have merits for addition or that I am questioning those additions. I don't know the music well enough to have an informed opinion.

Edited by Logan - July 31 2016 at 16:05
Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2016 at 17:27
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

there is no other album as far as I know, but those comments are hilarious. What about Robert Plant or Nightwish albums in PA???


I respect your opinion in finding these comments hilarious.

Re Nightwish and RP, are you implying that the team should be held accountable for their addition?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2016 at 12:15
every prog magazine and webradio talks about/plays Kalle Vilpuu or Teramaze (also rejected by PA advisory board) yet those 2 have no entry in PA...They don't play music for parties as far as I know, yet rather adventurous music, so what is the problem here?

Edited by lucas - August 01 2016 at 12:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2016 at 12:32
The problem? Maybe the fact that some people take rejections rather poorly.
Tame Impala are often referred to as a prog band over the net, but that doesn't mean that we need to include them on PA. Hell I've even seen Coldplay described as prog on quite a number of sites. Again that does not mean they're prog, but rather that the prog moniker seems to be thrown around a lot these days.
Anyway if the music is good one doesn't need it included on PA to enjoy it.
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